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  • #91
    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    This is a lot like what we saw back in 2008. Everybody in the media and most people were saying what a great speaker Obama was. I never thought so. Now, almost all republicans, and many democrats have determined that Obama is not a good speaker at all.
    This is the place to go for the real skinny on Pres. Obama's speaking ability:

    http://baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com/

    Last edited by LA Ute; 01-23-2012, 04:32 PM.
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    • #92
      Gingrich: Latinos, blacks don't understand 'key to future wealth' but Asian do http://huff.to/zYCQCX

      That's effing fantastic.

      Another Newt Tweet:

      Newt Gingrich definitely wasn't a lobbyist... Freddie Mac was only sending checks directly to his K Street address..
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      • #93
        Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
        Given a chance, I believe most Republicans would vote for Bill Clinton over nearly any of the Republican candidates this year.
        I like Mitt and think he would probably be a respectable President. But I can't think of a truly wonderful candidate nominated by the Republican Party in my lifetime. Yay, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, Bob Dole, GWB, McCain, Newt/Rumneh...

        (Reagan was nominated over the gritted teeth and much to the chagrin of the GOP establishment.)
        LOL. Ummm, no. Billy Jeff was/is a scumbag and is anti second ammendment.

        Despite some cherry picking of his record, taking in total Reagan was a genuine conservative, the real deal, "one of us", etc. He was the freaking man.
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        • #94
          RT @ErinMcPike The words "history" and "historian" do not, fyi, appear in the Freddie Mac/Gingrich Group contract.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by venkman View Post
            LOL. Ummm, no. Billy Jeff was/is a scumbag and is anti second ammendment.

            Despite some cherry picking of his record, taking in total Reagan was a genuine conservative, the real deal, "one of us", etc. He was the freaking man.
            Let me rephrase that, leaving out the personal character flaws of WJC. Whomever the Republican party nominates this time around will likely be, on the political spectrum, either at the same spot or to the LEFT of Bill Clinton on most issues. Romney and Gingrich both have supported cap-and-trade for CO2, both support a mandate for healthcare insurance, both will favor 'nation-building' (invading) for Iran, etc.

            I don't know where Romney and Gingrich stand on the 2nd amendment. But remember that there is a very high standard required to fully remove a Constitutional Amendment; it cannot be removed easily (2/3 vote of House and Senate, plus 3/4 of state legislatures IIRC). Yes, it can be chipped away bit by bit...

            Reagan was great in many ways. He was also anathema to the party, and they were horrified when he was nominated (recall GHWB was the nominee 'chosen' and desired by the party). His nomination was the triumph of the Republican 'man on the street' over the R party of K Street.

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            • #96
              Freddie Mac's contract with Newt:

              http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...-contract.html

              I searched it for "Historian." 0 results.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                Freddie Mac's contract with Newt:

                http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...-contract.html

                I searched it for "Historian." 0 results.
                Looks like he reported to the director for public policy. Hmmmm, that can only mean one thing....lobbyist!
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                  Let me rephrase that, leaving out the personal character flaws of WJC. Whomever the Republican party nominates this time around will likely be, on the political spectrum, either at the same spot or to the LEFT of Bill Clinton on most issues. Romney and Gingrich both have supported cap-and-trade for CO2, both support a mandate for healthcare insurance, both will favor 'nation-building' (invading) for Iran, etc.

                  I don't know where Romney and Gingrich stand on the 2nd amendment. But remember that there is a very high standard required to fully remove a Constitutional Amendment; it cannot be removed easily (2/3 vote of House and Senate, plus 3/4 of state legislatures IIRC). Yes, it can be chipped away bit by bit...

                  Reagan was great in many ways. He was also anathema to the party, and they were horrified when he was nominated (recall GHWB was the nominee 'chosen' and desired by the party). His nomination was the triumph of the Republican 'man on the street' over the R party of K Street.
                  You sound ridiculous. Do you follow politics? Romney and Giongrich to left of Clinton on most issues? Can you name one? Three?

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                  • #99
                    So in the debate tonight Newt talked about campaigning with Goldwater.

                    [YOUTUBE]hJQsLFhuyOY[/YOUTUBE]
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                    • Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                      Let me rephrase that, leaving out the personal character flaws of WJC. Whomever the Republican party nominates this time around will likely be, on the political spectrum, either at the same spot or to the LEFT of Bill Clinton on most issues. Romney and Gingrich both have supported cap-and-trade for CO2, both support a mandate for healthcare insurance, both will favor 'nation-building' (invading) for Iran, etc.

                      I don't know where Romney and Gingrich stand on the 2nd amendment. But remember that there is a very high standard required to fully remove a Constitutional Amendment; it cannot be removed easily (2/3 vote of House and Senate, plus 3/4 of state legislatures IIRC). Yes, it can be chipped away bit by bit...

                      Reagan was great in many ways. He was also anathema to the party, and they were horrified when he was nominated (recall GHWB was the nominee 'chosen' and desired by the party). His nomination was the triumph of the Republican 'man on the street' over the R party of K Street.
                      Bill Clinton was a big government liberal when he had a democratic congress. He supported a single payer system (Hillarycare) and my guess is would have supported cap and trade (as he does now) if it was an issue back then. Some look back fondly on those days now, but Bill Clinton was dragged kicking and screaming into the whole "the era of big government is over" thing. But hey, he finally went along with welfare reform and spending cuts, so good for him. He's better than Obama, I'll give him that.

                      He tried to gut the 2nd ammendment. Assault weapons ban, putting the screws to S&W, all sorts of propsed regulations, 500% ammo taxes, Janet Reno, etc., and just a general hostile tone. With the constitution, it doesn't need to be ammended anymore, just "reinterpreted". Viola, rights gone. Bill Clinton nominated SC judges who are hostile the the 2nd Ammendment.

                      I agree with your Reagan comments, I was initially responding to your statement that we hadn't had a good GOP candidate in your lifetime. Unless you're under 25 I disagree, Reagan was a good one, not perfect or always right, but as good as we could've hoped for IMO.
                      Last edited by venkman; 01-23-2012, 09:06 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        So in the debate tonight Newt talked about campaigning with Goldwater.

                        [YOUTUBE]hJQsLFhuyOY[/YOUTUBE]
                        The dude is so full of it. The other day Glenn Beck played various clips of him praising the holy trinity of liberal progressivism, TR, Wilson, and FDR.
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                        • Yep, the sonofabitch was lobbying pure and simple.

                          http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...by-shop/332461
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                          • Newt used a shady tax loophole

                            http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnov...tacked-by-irs/
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                            • Newt, per Robert Novak, was a Rockefeller Republican who was never really comfortable as a social conservative but put it on as a good political persona.

                              http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...ler-republican
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                              • Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                                Wow, a $2.4 million return on an investment of $1 million investment (at most).

                                Also, he's in the good company of John Edwards in his little tax ploy. Just one thing he has in common with the good Mr. Edwards.
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