The Police Brutality Thread

[wuapinmon]

Mister Wuap, I see that your noble sense of southern honor has been besmirched. In order to settle this like gentlemen, I hereby challenge you to a duel. I choose YOhio as my second.

Choose your weapon, sir.

I'm your huckleberry.

[il Padrino Ute]

"Big Club" > "Lynch Mob". You have dialed back the rhetoric some at least. Thank you. Perhaps the hubris next?

Do you mean hubris like condemning the officer without knowing the entire story?

[cougjunkie]

It's been a week. Is OK now to say that I'm glad this asshole got fired? If Lebowski accuses me of being party to a lynch mob, my feelings would be really hurt.

Coming from a guy with a history of freaking out and over reacting, this doesn't surprise anyone.

[Jeff Lebowski]

"Big Club" > "Lynch Mob". You have dialed back the rhetoric some at least. Thank you. Perhaps the hubris next?

"Big Club" = "Lynch Mob".

Sorry, I thought that would be more clear.

[imanihonjin]

Too seriously? You accused me of lynching someone by contributing to his loss of livelihood. Like pelagius' accusation of lechery, I'm not going to just ignore something like that, or agree with it. I take some things very seriously, and this is one of them. Sure it's a real phenomenon, but to suggest that my postings here constitute even a minuscule part of that is, here it comes again, facile.

You claim that your posting here don't constitute even a minuscule part of a lynch mob yet you take the posting of an accusation here very seriously. Kinda strange.

[Bo Diddley]

I wanted to look back and see what it was that Wuap said that was so out of line and over the top.

All for being disruptive in class.

She was being disruptive, was asked to leave, and wouldn't. There is no way this level of force is justified.

And, no child should be literally tossed across a room for being disruptive. There is no reason why a cop should body slam her backwards and then heave her so far he has to have to step a ways to get on top of her....This, on a child, is barbaric.

Clearly the alternative is to throw a child across a room when she misbehaves at school.

Ok, maybe a little loose with the word barbaric, but nothing lynch mob worthy.

On a child, no. Someone could've gotten that child to leave that room; that our goto is violence, towards a child, is wrong.

If I'm the principal...

Disrupting a class shouldn't get you arrested. It sure has hell shouldn't get a little girl heaved across a room so hard that she collides with the opposite wall. There's something wrong with us if we think that using violence in this situation is acceptable.

I disagree. The escalation to violence was brutality.

I think my main issue with this is very notion that we need a police officer to remove a child from a room over a cellphone. There's no difference in resisting arrest. That she's even being arrested is the issue, well, that and the brutality of her being slammed and then thrown several feet.

You come from a different place. She was wrong for refusing to move, but the brutality here exceeds what I think is acceptable use of force. Just because your dad could've done it doesn't mean that he would've. My dad could've too, easily, no doubt in my mind, but my dad wouldn't have unless there was a need to resort to violence. There is no need to resort to violence when a kid is being a little shit.

Calling the excessive force brutality is the strongest statement here. Isn't that just the definition of police brutality?

Jesse Jackson just gave a speech...

I disagree with those who don't see this as brutality, but I'm going to drop the discussion, not because I agree or am cowed. Rather, I'm sick of thinking about this and how these discussions make me feel and I've got too much to do before the Day of the Dead. Mock away.

Ok, bringing up Jesse Jackson shouldn't win any arguments.

Is this site run by John Dehlin now?

Alright, we all know you lost the argument here. In fact, this may be the most egregious thing you've said on the matter.

So I guess the school cop has been fired. Congrats wuap. You were part of yet another social media lynch mob that destroyed someone's career.

Huh?

I seriously thought I missed something. Based on everyone's reactions, surely Wuap said something out of line, over-the top.

[TripletDaddy]

I like how you conveniently gloss over wuap calling us spalpeens and groundlings. Take your egregiously #teamwuap attitude back to the other side of the room please.

[Bo Diddley]

I like how you conveniently gloss over wuap calling us spalpeens and groundlings. Take your egregiously #teamwuap attitude back to the other side of the room please.

I was trying to confine the scope of this to what he said about the police officer.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I like how you conveniently gloss over wuap calling us spalpeens and groundlings. Take your egregiously #teamwuap attitude back to the other side of the room please.

He told me my argument was facile.

Then he called me "John Dehlin".

[cougjunkie]

I like how you conveniently gloss over wuap calling us spalpeens and groundlings. Take your egregiously #teamwuap attitude back to the other side of the room please.

Wuap is entitled to his opinion along with the rest of the lynch mob (even if they are batshit crazy). What I found comical was his solution, of shutting off the lights, calling the parents, and waiting until they had to use the bathroom.

[wuapinmon]

I like how you conveniently gloss over wuap calling us spalpeens and groundlings. Take your egregiously #teamwuap attitude back to the other side of the room please.

I wasn't calling everyone spalpeens and groundlings.

I was trying to confine the scope of this to what he said about the police officer.

That's what a real detective does. You have my respect.

He told me my argument was facile.

Then he called me "John Dehlin".

I'm disappointed I didn't rate an "Oh, brother" over that one.

[wuapinmon]

Wuap is entitled to his opinion along with the rest of the lynch mob (even if they are batshit crazy). What I found comical was his solution, of shutting off the lights, calling the parents, and waiting until they had to use the bathroom.

[Commando]

¿De veras? Facile debería ser sumamente fácil para ti.

Yeah, but it wasn't making sense. Although essentially the same, Definition 1 contains the nuance that I was missing.

[TripletDaddy]

I wasn't calling everyone spalpeens and groundlings.

[cougjunkie]

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