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  • SoCalCoug
    Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
    • Nov 2008
    • 5214

    #1201
    Originally posted by Topper View Post
    Follow up.
    Is it that hard to hit the white guy when there's a black guy in the scene?
    If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

    "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

    "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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    • Topper
      Pre-Historic Man
      • Nov 2011
      • 11764

      #1202
      Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
      Is it that hard to hit the white guy when there's a black guy in the scene?
      Special Florida law enforcement officer training: Shoot the black guy first, then ask questions and figure out what he did.
      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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      • imanihonjin
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 3772

        #1203
        It just keeps getting worse for the police.

        http://ktla.com/2016/07/22/video-cap...stop-in-texas/

        I cannot believe that in 2016 a police officer would, not only believe, but be so open about his beliefs. Basically, the officer who transported this women to jail stated that police treat black people badly because black people have violent tendencies. Unreal.

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        • Commando
          Explosivo
          • Feb 2009
          • 20748

          #1204
          Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
          It just keeps getting worse for the police.

          http://ktla.com/2016/07/22/video-cap...stop-in-texas/

          I cannot believe that in 2016 a police officer would, not only believe, but be so open about his beliefs. Basically, the officer who transported this women to jail stated that police treat black people badly because black people have violent tendencies. Unreal.
          Heh. In a statement that is shocking to exactly nobody. Maybe if people start admitting their biases the problem can be mitigated.
          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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          • wuapinmon
            Soul Plumber
            • Dec 2008
            • 30711

            #1205
            Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post

            I cannot believe that in 2016 a police officer would, not only believe, but be so open about his beliefs.
            I see you've never lived somewhere where there are a lot of black people. I spend my life cringing and speaking out against white people who assume I'm cool with racist bullshit when there are no black people around. Hell, last week in Buffalo, NY, one of my wife's friend's mom (From Washington County, Utah no less) was at a restaurant, and there were even black people there, and my wife asked her why Buffalo's economy was suffering; I suggested that the St. Lawrence Seaway was a great idea when it was built when Europe need our grain exports, but now that they don't, the Great Lakes ports don't do nearly as much shipping business as they used to, and that has depressed the overall economy of the region. Nope, her response, in a loud enough voice where I'm sure the black people heard her, "I think it's the blacks. That's why we live in Grand Island. They can run their city into the ground and we'll live up here where they can't elect people to ruin where we live." Her daughter actually said, "Why don't you say that a little louder, Mom and start a fight?"

            The ability of white people to think racist thoughts about black people--anyone who isn't NORTHERN European white--has been greatly underestimated. I always laugh when white people from homogeneous places react with disbelief at the racism of other white people. A black man, the late Nate Williams, bought a house on our street, and my family was the only one to go greet him when he moved in. THE ONLY ONE. He was a good neighbor. He worked for Macy's for 35+ years, retired, and spent his final years fishing and not controlling his diabetes. He died and his house has been empty since then. I miss him. After a couple of years, after he proved he wasn't "one of those kind" as a neighbor-who-shall-remain-nameless put it, others warmed to him, and when he died, there were several of us at his funeral, the only white people at the black funeral home. Someone actually asked me if Nate had worked for me. When I said that "No, he was my neighbor and I came to pay my respects to him and to his family because I'll miss him" they were almost puzzled, like they couldn't believe that I was serious. I took a huge dish full of beans and rice over to the wake at his house. When I knocked on the door, for a second, there was confusion in the sister's eyes, then she realized who we were, and then a huge smile. We stayed only for about 15 minutes, long enough for everyone to come over and thank us for being there. The crock of beans was twice as much as the entirety of the wake could've eaten, and I insisted that they keep it when we left. Again, disbelief that a white man and woman could be good neighbors. Finally, someone said, "Oh, wait, YOU"RE MARK! He told us about you!" I said, "Yeah, he never did remember my name was Mac, and after a while, I felt it was disrespectful to correct my elder, so I just let him call me Mark."

            He told his family about me. Like I was the one <redacted> white man who was nice to him on his street.

            That's why that woman got dragged from her car and got slammed to the ground and why that cop felt like he could just say whatever the FHWT to her. The tacit racism of white people in this country is boundless; it's endless, and what's worse---it's expected.
            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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            • Commando
              Explosivo
              • Feb 2009
              • 20748

              #1206


              What in the bumbling fuck is going on here? Cop enters a property on an improvidently issued warrant in time to shoot the family dog at a 5-year old's birthday party? So who is the real threat to the neighborhood here? GTFO.
              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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              • Dwight Schr-ute
                Members Only
                • May 2011
                • 4917

                #1207
                Originally posted by Commando View Post
                http://okcfox.com/news/fox-25-invest...birthday-party

                What in the bumbling fuck is going on here? Cop enters a property on an improvidently issued warrant in time to shoot the family dog at a 5-year old's birthday party? So who is the real threat to the neighborhood here? GTFO.
                Any guesses at what color that dog was?!


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                I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                • Commando
                  Explosivo
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 20748

                  #1208
                  Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
                  Any guesses at what color that dog was?!
                  Oh it gets better! He saw the dog and returned to his truck to retrieve a rifle to shoot the dog from the other side of the chain link fence.
                  "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #1209
                    Originally posted by Commando View Post
                    Oh it gets better! He saw the dog and returned to his truck to retrieve a rifle to shoot the dog from the other side of the chain link fence.
                    I heard a TV announcer last night say that the cop in Florida who shot the hands up guy actually shot THREE TIMES, but only hit him once.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #1210
                      Anonymous is posting about law enforcement officers and leaders increasingly referring to the current climate as war and civil war, and using terms like "eradicate" and "defeat" against Black Lives Matter groups.

                      For example, the sheriff of Milwaukee County, Wisconsin, wrote an op-ed which he headlined, "This is War and Black Lives Matter is the Enemy."
                      http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...ouge-civil-war

                      Read that essay. It's disturbing for its if-you're-not-with-us-you're-an-accomplice mindset.

                      Now, there's also a call to make Louisiana's new awaiting-the-gov.-signature Blue Lives Matter Bill that makes killing a cop a hate crime by definition, into Federal Law.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • imanihonjin
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 3772

                        #1211
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        I see you've never lived somewhere where there are a lot of black people.
                        Ha, okay, whatever you say champ.

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                        • BlueK
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 7180

                          #1212
                          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          I see you've never lived somewhere where there are a lot of black people. I spend my life cringing and speaking out against white people who assume I'm cool with racist bullshit when there are no black people around.
                          I agree. I've experienced this same thing many times also in my life. I grew up in Utah and moved to the DFW area as an adult. It's different here. My wife and I have commented with each other that our daughters seem to have no idea whatsoever why they should care about the color of someone's skin, and I'm very happy about that.
                          Last edited by BlueK; 07-25-2016, 09:33 AM.

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                          • Topper
                            Pre-Historic Man
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11764

                            #1213
                            Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                            I agree. I've experienced this same thing many times also in my life. I grew up in Utah and moved to the DFW area as an adult. It's different here. My wife and I have commented with each other that our daughters seem to have no idea whatsoever why they should care about the color of someone's skin, and I'm very happy about that.
                            De-escalation is in order.

                            The difficulty is that there is not just one ethnic segment. Much of the disparity exists within the socioeconomic class of the indigent and the poor, the bottom twenty percent of society. On this board, we may have a few people who have climbed out of that group, but nobody who currently belongs to it. Most of us, who live outside Utah or Southern Idaho, have friends and neighbors of all ethnic groups. Have they experienced some awkward moments where somebody made assumptions about them on the basis of their ethnicity? Most likely, but their lives because of their education has been and is going to be mostly good with diminishing incidents. In the upper socioeconomic groups, society is mostly color blind. You wouldn't have a President, members of Supreme Court, or even our billionaire upper 1% contain members from all ethnic groups, even previously disadvantaged groups if this weren't true.

                            In the lowest of the socioeconomic groups, the effects of a discriminatory past still prevail. But I don't believe a President parading on tv these differences makes it better or will improve their conditions. The bottom 20% need a new focus how to create income mobility, regardless of ethnicity. It will disproportionately benefit certain ethnicities but should not focus on them.
                            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #1214
                              Originally posted by Topper View Post
                              You wouldn't have a President, members of Supreme Court, or even our billionaire upper 1% contain members from all ethnic groups, even previously disadvantaged groups if this weren't true.

                              In the lowest of the socioeconomic groups, the effects of a discriminatory past still prevail. But I don't believe a President parading on tv these differences makes it better or will improve their conditions. The bottom 20% need a new focus how to create income mobility, regardless of ethnicity. It will disproportionately benefit certain ethnicities but should not focus on them.
                              You shouldn't have to be exceptional to escape the effects of a discriminatory present.
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • Topper
                                Pre-Historic Man
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 11764

                                #1215
                                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                You shouldn't have to be exceptional to escape the effects of a discriminatory present.
                                You don't have to be exceptional, as many of your friends or my friends come from diverse ethnic groups. Economically neither of us is exceptional. You may be in the upper tier of teaching abilities but neither of us are billionaires.

                                but if you are locked into the lowest group or lowest quintile then, those are where the effects still exist and still exist. They exist in a multitude of ways.
                                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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