The Police Brutality Thread

[Topper]

I agree Art. No evidence of training.

[CardiacCoug]

I just watched the video. How anyone would not consider manslaughter is beyond me. He pulled up to a guy (who wasn't doing anything wrong), gave him directions, which he followed exactly as they were given. Then he was shot- not tasered, no pepper-sprayed, no bean-bagged, but shot multiple times without doing anything that even resembled putting the officer in harms way. He recklessly used a weapon, by not using good judgement. If a the young man had been drunk -another dangerous situation, where poor judgement is shown- and run over the cop, would there be any one defending his actions?

I'm no lawyer but doesn't manslaughter require somebody to die? Agree with you though -- ridiculously haphazard use of weapon -- good example of why cameras are so good.

[Art Vandelay]

I'm no lawyer but doesn't manslaughter require somebody to die? Agree with you though -- ridiculously haphazard use of weapon -- good example of why cameras are so good.

My bad, I thought he had died. Thank goodness the cop shot like the bar patrons in Unforgiven.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm no lawyer but doesn't manslaughter require somebody to die?

Pretty sure you have to cut up the body and package the meat also.

[Non Sequitur]

Somewhere, there's a long line of lawyers jostling to take this thing civil.

[dabrockster]

Interesting read about how Police respond due to the increased coverage of mass shootings. How Mass shootings have impacted how Police address calls that in the past may have been handled very differently.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...john-crawford/

[wuapinmon]

Anyone know how to say 'balls of steel' in Cantonese?

[wuapinmon]

I wouldn't be surprised if a some cop doesn't catch one in the back over this. Telling someone to move back who is doing what she's doing should be a minor thing. He didn't even tell her to stop once she walked away from him.

[San Juan Sun]

I wouldn't be surprised if a some cop doesn't catch one in the back over this. Telling someone to move back who is doing what she's doing should be a minor thing. He didn't even tell her to stop once she walked away from him.

I never get tired of a good tazing. I have problems, I know.

[wuapinmon]

I never get tired of a good tazing. I have problems, I know.

I'm glad you're a surgeon.

[myboynoah]

Evidence supports officer’s account of shooting in Ferguson

[imanihonjin]

Evidence supports officer’s account of shooting in Ferguson

Not according to Lawrence O'Donnell. I watched part of his show last night and his whole point was that just because some of the autopsy could be interpreted to support Officer Wilson's story, it by no means makes the Officer's story true. I love MSNBC. I know I shouldn't watch it but I just can't turn it off.

[Eddie]

Not according to Lawrence O'Donnell. I watched part of his show last night and his whole point was that just because some of the autopsy could be interpreted to support Officer Wilson's story, it by no means makes the Officer's story true. I love MSNBC. I know I shouldn't watch it but I just can't turn it off.

Just because their is some evidence that could be interpreted to support that O'Donnell has a brain (for instance, the fact that he can walk, talk, etc.) by no means makes his having a brain a certainty.

I think cops have a tough job. I wonder sometimes if cops in large population areas where violence is more common are more prone to suffer some sort of emotional/mental breakdown as a result of the stress. If some cops get thinking that they've survived 15 (or 20...or whatever) years and they've just got a few more to go and they are home free.

I have a son who was a life guard for a while. At the rec center where he worked, they would test them by throwing dolls into the pool that would sink to the bottom or sending them down the slide. If they didn't see it soon enough (they had a few seconds to notice) then it would be recorded and additional training would be required. Often he would come home drained from having to be hyper-vigilant every moment. And that was due to worry about potential danger to others.

I wonder if some personalities are just more prone to not handling that hyper-vigilance long-term. Particularly when you aren't just worried about potential harm to others, but potential harm to yourself. And eventually they are strung so tightly that they react to a perceived threat that isn't real - but is real to them. Because they've been imagining it for 40 hours every week of every year of their time as a cop. Like some form of PTSD not due to actual trauma experienced or witnessed, but due to the potential of that trauma being a part of your life.

I know there are departments that do some personality testing. But I wonder how much they really know.

Sorry - just rambling now.

[byu71]

Just because their is some evidence that could be interpreted to support that O'Donnell has a brain (for instance, the fact that he can walk, talk, etc.) by no means makes his having a brain a certainty.

I think cops have a tough job. I wonder sometimes if cops in large population areas where violence is more common are more prone to suffer some sort of emotional/mental breakdown as a result of the stress. If some cops get thinking that they've survived 15 (or 20...or whatever) years and they've just got a few more to go and they are home free.

I have a son who was a life guard for a while. At the rec center where he worked, they would test them by throwing dolls into the pool that would sink to the bottom or sending them down the slide. If they didn't see it soon enough (they had a few seconds to notice) then it would be recorded and additional training would be required. Often he would come home drained from having to be hyper-vigilant every moment. And that was due to worry about potential danger to others.

I wonder if some personalities are just more prone to not handling that hyper-vigilance long-term. Particularly when you aren't just worried about potential harm to others, but potential harm to yourself. And eventually they are strung so tightly that they react to a perceived threat that isn't real - but is real to them. Because they've been imagining it for 40 hours every week of every year of their time as a cop. Like some form of PTSD not due to actual trauma experienced or witnessed, but due to the potential of that trauma being a part of your life.

I know there are departments that do some personality testing. But I wonder how much they really know.

Sorry - just rambling now.

I am surprised there are so many incidents with minorites. I think most cops are warned over and over again to be very careful with how they treat minorities. Law suits involving discrimination is a big business.

I will bet there are a lot of dicrimination law suits against jailors by undocumented immigrants (formerly known as illegal aliens) who are in custody. I have heard they demand and get special food and medical treatment.

[smokymountainrain]

Just because their is some evidence that could be interpreted to support that O'Donnell has a brain (for instance, the fact that he can walk, talk, etc.) by no means makes his having a brain a certainty.

I think cops have a tough job. I wonder sometimes if cops in large population areas where violence is more common are more prone to suffer some sort of emotional/mental breakdown as a result of the stress. If some cops get thinking that they've survived 15 (or 20...or whatever) years and they've just got a few more to go and they are home free.

I have a son who was a life guard for a while. At the rec center where he worked, they would test them by throwing dolls into the pool that would sink to the bottom or sending them down the slide. If they didn't see it soon enough (they had a few seconds to notice) then it would be recorded and additional training would be required. Often he would come home drained from having to be hyper-vigilant every moment. And that was due to worry about potential danger to others.

I wonder if some personalities are just more prone to not handling that hyper-vigilance long-term. Particularly when you aren't just worried about potential harm to others, but potential harm to yourself. And eventually they are strung so tightly that they react to a perceived threat that isn't real - but is real to them. Because they've been imagining it for 40 hours every week of every year of their time as a cop. Like some form of PTSD not due to actual trauma experienced or witnessed, but due to the potential of that trauma being a part of your life.

I know there are departments that do some personality testing. But I wonder how much they really know.

Sorry - just rambling now.

The bolded is the reason I'm continually uncomfortable with this thread. It's easy to sit on the sidlines and judge these guys, but try doing their job for a month or a year and I have a feeling we wouldn't be so quick to pounce.