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  • Shaka
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 10437

    #616
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    yikes cox. how you have fallen

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    I'd like to applaud Cox for stating the obvious.

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    • Maximus
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 6003

      #617
      let me guess...youre circumcised?

      it is pretty ignorant (and kinda phobic?) to say all trans care is genital mutalation btw

      and after oklahoma maybe people should realize what trans attacking does..

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69452

        #618
        Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post

        he's saying she was bullied because people thought she was trans as Cline had portrayed her. i have no idea how true that is, but i think that's Frank's point.
        If anyone concludes from this episode that bullying is acceptable (trans or straight), they would have to be a huge idiot.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Pelado
          Bald not naked
          • Sep 2010
          • 21083

          #619
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          If anyone concludes from this episode that bullying is acceptable (trans or straight), they would have to be a huge idiot.
          I think they're trying to say that if she is re-elected, it would be implicitly saying that bullying trans (or suspected trans) is acceptable.
          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
          - Goatnapper'96

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          • Bo Diddley
            Senior
            • Jul 2012
            • 18691

            #620
            Originally posted by Pelado View Post

            I think they're trying to say that if she is re-elected, it would be implicitly saying that bullying trans (or suspected trans) is acceptable.
            Agreed. I also thought Frank was saying that this whole horrible episode was a symptom of some the attitudes from that crowd and if they feel like this is simply acceptable collateral damage, she could get reelected.

            I'm optimistic that attitude does not prevail and she will lose.

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69452

              #621
              My offer for a wager still stands. Put your money where your cynicism is, you cowards.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69452

                #622
                And lol @ all you guys explaining Frank’s post for him.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Maximus
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6003

                  #623
                  Cox and utah legislature are pro bullying through legislation. Wish it were true that no one is. The vilification is the root cause

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                  • Pelado
                    Bald not naked
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21083

                    #624
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    And lol @ all you guys explaining Frank’s post for him.
                    What can I say? I'm a peacemaker. Can't we all just get along?
                    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                    - Goatnapper'96

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69452

                      #625
                      Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                      What can I say? I'm a peacemaker. Can't we all just get along?
                      I love all you guys.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • USUC
                        Chronic Poseur
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 8775

                        #626
                        Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                        Cox and utah legislature are pro bullying through legislation. Wish it were true that no one is. The vilification is the root cause
                        I don't think you will get much pushback from the general Utah population as a whole supporting a ban "gender affirming care." To most people though, this simply means banning sexual reassignment surgery or hormone replacement therapy to those under the age of 18. I'm sure this isnt the whole picture, but its not like activists are doing a very good job of explaining it either.

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                        • Shaka
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 10437

                          #627
                          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                          let me guess...youre circumcised?

                          it is pretty ignorant (and kinda phobic?) to say all trans care is genital mutalation btw

                          and after oklahoma maybe people should realize what trans attacking does..
                          Did you really compare circumcision to genital mutilation? Good grief.

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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 37856

                            #628
                            Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                            Did you really compare circumcision to genital mutilation? Good grief.
                            Uh, that's not a unique take. Especially in the rest of the world.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Omaha 680
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 11167

                              #629
                              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                              let me guess...youre circumcised?

                              it is pretty ignorant (and kinda phobic?) to say all trans care is genital mutalation btw

                              and after oklahoma maybe people should realize what trans attacking does..
                              Did Cox say all trans care is genital mutilation or did he say sex reassignment surgery for minors? I am genuinely curious. Advocates of trans care do not do the movement favors by lumping everything under "gender-affirming care". But my cynical side thinks equating counseling with radical life-altering surgery under the same vague umbrella term is intentional.

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                              • Shaka
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 10437

                                #630
                                Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                                Did Cox say all trans care is genital mutilation or did he say sex reassignment surgery for minors? I am genuinely curious. Advocates of trans care do not do the movement favors by lumping everything under "gender-affirming care". But my cynical side thinks equating counseling with radical life-altering surgery under the same vague umbrella term is intentional.
                                I took it that he was implying sex reassignment surgery for minors.

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