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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

    Yeah, there wasn't a lot of outrage over how Trump celebrated that attack. I've lost some respect for Cox.
    Y'all should start a petition to have him recalled. Didn't he just like a week ago say he wasn't voting for Trump but almost in the same breath endorse Doug Burgum for VP? Can you even vote for half of a ticket in Utah? The guy is a total corn flake and doesn't represent Utah well.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

      Y'all should start a petition to have him recalled. Didn't he just like a week ago say he wasn't voting for Trump but almost in the same breath endorse Doug Burgum for VP? Can you even vote for half of a ticket in Utah? The guy is a total corn flake and doesn't represent Utah well.
      No, that's what conservatives do in California. I don't dislike him, just disappointed. MAGA continues to smoother moderates. RINO isn't even a term for moderates; but rather it is shorthand for someone who doesn't want to bootlick the aspiring dictator.

      Vance called Trump America's Hitler, but now he stands next to him as his gelded sidekick.

      Someone like Lyman is a morally suspect individual and awful leader.

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      • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

        Y'all should start a petition to have him recalled. Didn't he just like a week ago say he wasn't voting for Trump but almost in the same breath endorse Doug Burgum for VP? Can you even vote for half of a ticket in Utah? The guy is a total corn flake and doesn't represent Utah well.
        Seeing as how he won the R primary with over 54% of the vote, and will win reelection with probably 70% of the vote and enjoys overall approval ratings of well over 50%, and depending on the poll as high as 70%, I would say he actually represents Utah pretty darn well.

        But you do you, Tedbot…

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        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

          Y'all should start a petition to have him recalled. Didn't he just like a week ago say he wasn't voting for Trump but almost in the same breath endorse Doug Burgum for VP? Can you even vote for half of a ticket in Utah? The guy is a total corn flake and doesn't represent Utah well.
          Man, if only there was some kind of mechanism whereby we could gauge how Utahans felt about his leadership as governor. Hmm...
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • And Phil Lyman continues his shenanigans:

            https://www.ksl.com/article/51088422...-out-of-office

            State Rep. Phil Lyman is asking Utah's top court to kick Gov. Spencer Cox and Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson out of office and make him the Republican gubernatorial nominee after losing to the incumbent governor in the June 25 primary.

            Lyman, a Republican from Blanding, filed a request for extraordinary writ with the Utah Supreme Court late Thursday, challenging the state's law allowing a dual path to the primary ballot. Lyman qualified by winning the delegate vote at the GOP nominating convention in April, while Cox collected signatures to qualify — both of which are valid under Utah law.

            But Lyman — who is acting as his own counsel in the filing — contends he is the rightful GOP nominee because he earned more than 60% of the delegate vote.
            And I'm sure when he loses at the Utah Supreme Court he will do the same tactic of declaring anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with his interpretation of law and reality to be corrupt.

            This guy is such trash. He makes Matthew 5:44 really hard to follow in practice.

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            • Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
              And Phil Lyman continues his shenanigans:

              https://www.ksl.com/article/51088422...-out-of-office



              And I'm sure when he loses at the Utah Supreme Court he will do the same tactic of declaring anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with his interpretation of law and reality to be corrupt.

              This guy is such trash. He makes Matthew 5:44 really hard to follow in practice.
              Is there any provision to charge people for nuisance filings?
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                Is there any provision to charge people for nuisance filings?
                Sure. Slap on the wrist.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Does anyone like this Lyman guy?

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                  • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                    This reminds me of when Mitt auditioned to be Secretary of State only for it to end up being a humiliation ritual. Cox will inevitably rescind his support when Trump does or says something indefensible, then he’ll look even more foolish for this completely unnecessary endorsement.
                    That was awful. That is something I have a big problem with. There are plenty of liberals; albeit more often moderates but sometimes progressives who will acknowledge Romney's character and courage. But others use his willingness to accept on SOS position as evidence he was sucking up to Trump.
                    Romney consulted a lot of people about that position, including Hillary Clinton, who encouraged him to take it, for the good of our country.
                    It was just another early warning sign of how poor Trump's character was.

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                    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                      That was awful. That is something I have a big problem with. There are plenty of liberals; albeit more often moderates but sometimes progressives who will acknowledge Romney's character and courage. But others use his willingness to accept on SOS position as evidence he was sucking up to Trump.
                      Romney consulted a lot of people about that position, including Hillary Clinton, who encouraged him to take it, for the good of our country.
                      It was just another early warning sign of how poor Trump's character was.
                      The thing is, if Trump wins again I bet there will be more "respectable Republicans" who will make themselves available to serve I'm his administration under the same mistaken belief that they can steer him in the right direction. I'm less optimistic that the Trump team will be amenable to them this go round though. Seems like his dense sons have the last say on things.

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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        Does anyone like this Lyman guy?
                        I know a lot of people that do.

                        Spencer Cox seems to be hated by both the leftists and MAGA. Which means he is doing a great job.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                          I know a lot of people that do.

                          Spencer Cox seems to be hated by both the leftists and MAGA. Which means he is doing a great job.
                          I don't know if am a "leftist," or not. I don't describe myself that way. But I don't hate him. I'm disappointed in him but I've voted for him and donated tiny symbolic amounts of money.

                          I've not decided if I'm voting for him in the general or not.

                          Lyman seems so unlikeable. I hope he goes away. He is waaaaaay worse than Cox could ever be.

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                          • Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

                            https://www.theguardian.com/books/ar...-statewide-ban

                            “It is a dark day for the freedom to read in Utah,” said Meehan. The list of banned books “will impose a dystopian censorship regime across public schools and, in many cases, will directly contravene local preferences. Allowing just a handful of districts to make decisions for the whole state is anti-democratic.”

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                            • Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                              Utah outlaws books by Judy Blume and Sarah J Maas in first statewide ban

                              https://www.theguardian.com/books/ar...-statewide-ban

                              “It is a dark day for the freedom to read in Utah,” said Meehan. The list of banned books “will impose a dystopian censorship regime across public schools and, in many cases, will directly contravene local preferences. Allowing just a handful of districts to make decisions for the whole state is anti-democratic.”
                              "dystopian censorship regime". Ha.

                              The 13 books could be banned under House bill 29, which became effective from 1 July, because they were considered to contain “pornographic or indecent” material. The list “will likely be updated as more books begin to meet the law’s criteria”, according to PEN America.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • How is it a statewide ban if you can still buy them and read them in the state
                                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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