adoption without the fathers consent.....

[old_gregg]

No the point with Roe v. Wade was that the mother wanted to have an abortion, the only way to do that though was if she were raped. This is not the case with baby jack.

not to distract from the thread, but this is incorrect. if you're interested give the wikipedia article a read.

[Get Baby Jack Back]

That whole family wants Jackson back. But Jake wants him back more, the family is supportive of Jake. And it must be a very heart-wrenching time in the families lives, I would think.

Thank you very much for having interest in our story. This is Jake's Sister In Law, who has been running the blog. JAKE 100% does want his son back. It's so awful the way the laws are set up in Utah. They give unmarried father's ZERO chance to raise their son if they want the option. Jake was with Whitney through her entire pregnancy. He attended doctors appointments, gave her substantial amount of money, welcomed her into his family even though they were not a couple. Jake took Whitney to lunch on a very frequent occasion. He was in contact with her every single day. On December 28th, the night before the birth they went to temple square with his family to look at the Christmas lights. That very next day, she went into pre-term labor and did not notify Jake of the birth. Jake even joked around with her the next day and asked if we were having a baby today? At this point she had already the baby and given him up for adoption. In text messages Jake even asked how her last doctor's appointment went and she replied "good, no change." NO CHANGE????? Pretty sure you are NOT pregnant anymore, I think that is a really big change! She lied throughout her entire pregnancy. She had planned on giving up the baby the entire time. She had been working with a case worker since June. She was taking Jake's money with zero intentions on keeping the baby. Not only is the law messed up and is there only to protect the mother, but it enables mothers to fly to Utah to take advantage of the law, because they know that the father is more than likely not going to have any chance against LDS FAMILY SERVICES or the State of Utah who is ran by the LDS faith.

Adoption can be a great thing if it is willing from both the mother and the father! It took two people to create this special human being and the most precious thing in life was ripped away from his father who wanted him.

Jake is a wonderful person who's life has been shatter! He most likely will NOT get his son back, BUT when he is 18 his son will know the whole truth! He will be told he was STOLEN not given up willing and his father fought as hard as he could! Justice will be served. Oh, and it is the Whitney Pettersson who's son was brutally murdered and his killer got off. Classy lady eh?

What would you do if you adopted a child that you found out was not rightfully given up? Would you want to make amends and give the child back or would you keep a child you know was taken from a loving and caring home unwilling, because unfortunately the adoptive family knows the situation

[San Juan Sun]

they know that the father is more than likely not going to have any chance against LDS FAMILY SERVICES or the State of Utah who is ran by the LDS faith.

What would you do if you adopted a child that you found out was not rightfully given up? Would you want to make amends and give the child back or would you keep a child you know was taken from a loving and caring home unwilling, because unfortunately the adoptive family knows the situation

If I adopted a child under these circumstances, and found out that the family believes such idiotic things as yours apparently does, I'm keeping the kid. Just to save him from you guys.

[New Mexican Disaster]

If I adopted a child under these circumstances, and found out that the family believes such idiotic things as yours apparently does, I'm keeping the kid. Just to save him from you guys.

Easy now. You've got to know that this woman has a lot of feelings tied up in this because her family has been through an ordeal of having a child snatched away.

I have had a dozen or so people come to me in the same situation and I have to tell them that the laws of New Mexico are similar to those of Utah. This area of the law is rife with abuses and is in drastic need of a change. I don't blame someone for feeling that the laws of a state are unfair.

I don't agree w/ her conclusion but the sentiment that drives it is understandable.

[San Juan Sun]

Easy now. You've got to know that this woman has a lot of feelings tied up in this because her family has been through an ordeal of having a child snatched away.

I have had a dozen or so people come to me in the same situation and I have to tell them that the laws of New Mexico are similar to those of Utah. This area of the law is rife with abuses and is in drastic need of a change. I don't blame someone for feeling that the laws of a state are unfair.

I don't agree w/ her conclusion but the sentiment that drives it is understandable.

For the record, you don't know about the ordeal I've been through. I stillnstruggle with the aftermath of similar choices people made in my life many years ago.

Secondly, having an issue with the law is one thing. There's a legislative process for that. Blaming the LDS church is hyperbole to the extreme, and counterproductive to boot.

[doctorcoug]

In my state the FOB has no rights to the child. Quite frankly, I agree with this here in this area. The FOB spent 3 minutes doing his part...MOB spent 40 weeks doing her part.

Her body, her baby, her choice.

But this is my area, which is very different than Utah.

[Get Baby Jack Back]

Secondly, having an issue with the law is one thing. There's a legislative process for that. Blaming the LDS church is hyperbole to the extreme, and counterproductive to boot.[/QUOTE]

I was not blaming the LDS church, for the circumstances. I was saying that because of the LDS faith and their belief in a traditional married mother/father family home as opposed to a single father or single mother the laws are pro-family even if the single UNWED father wants the child.

The law in the state of Utah says that unwed father's must file on the Putative Father Registry within 24 hours of the birth, BUT the law also states that the mother does not have to notify the father of the childs birth. The law also says if there is FRAUD or DURESS (Which there was both of) used in the case IT DOES NOT MATTER. In only two states Utah and Massachutes this occurs. In every other state the father has a period of 10-30 days to file on this registry. Jake did file on the registry the day he found out about the adoption, but he was too late.

Have you ever heard of the putative father registry? It costs hunderds of dollars to register and you have to have an attorney on hand who usually requires a couple thousand dollar retainer. Why should a father who wants to raise his child, had everything ready for his child (crib, stroller,diapers, stroller, toys, money, health insurance, family support and most imporantly LOVE) have to file on a registry "just in case?"

[Get Baby Jack Back]

In my state the FOB has no rights to the child. Quite frankly, I agree with this here in this area. The FOB spent 3 minutes doing his part...MOB spent 40 weeks doing her part.

Her body, her baby, her choice.

But this is my area, which is very different than Utah.

Do you have children? or are you ever planning on having children? Just because it took "3 minutes" doesn't mean that Jake did not bond with this baby over the 40 weeks!

IT's NOT JUST HER CHOICE UNFORTUNATELY! She didn't get pregant by herself now did she?

[San Juan Sun]

I was not blaming the LDS church, for the circumstances. I was saying that because of the LDS faith and their belief in a traditional married mother/father family home as opposed to a single father or single mother the laws...

Please. You quite clearly stated that the LDS Church runs the State of Utah.

[New Mexican Disaster]

For the record, you don't know about the ordeal I've been through. I stillnstruggle with the aftermath of similar choices people made in my life many years ago.

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You are right I don't.

[Get Baby Jack Back]

Please. You quite clearly stated that the LDS Church runs the State of Utah.

Quite frankly it is. Point Blank they have more money than us to fight on this issue.

[wuapinmon]

Do you have children? or are you ever planning on having children? Just because it took "3 minutes" doesn't mean that Jake did not bond with this baby over the 40 weeks!

IT's NOT JUST HER CHOICE UNFORTUNATELY! She didn't get pregant by herself now did she?

3 minutes? If he was wearing a condom, how did she get pregnant?

[San Juan Sun]

Quite frankly it is. Point Blank they have more money than us to fight on this issue.

Nice. So you're back to saying the LDS Church dominates Utah again, huh.

IMO, I highly doubt the church wastes any money on this issue. That you think that they have (that you used the word "fight") is revealing, I think.

[Get Baby Jack Back]

3 minutes? If he was wearing a condom, how did she get pregnant?

Who ever said he was wearing a condom? They had a relationship that was sexual and SHIT happens. But the great thing was JAKE was willing and is willing to raise HIS son. We all know how babies are made right?

[Get Baby Jack Back]

Nice. So you're back to saying the LDS Church dominates Utah again, huh.

IMO, I highly doubt the church wastes any money on this issue. That you think that they have (that you used the word "fight") is revealing, I think.

Why don't you google adoption ethics, adoption laws, adoption cases in the state of Utah? There ARE hundreds!

This is beside the fact about the LDS Church. You really are missing the big picture. The fact of the matter is there is a father who wants his son and will do anything he can to have a relationship and get him back.

What would you do if someone took your son away? YOU WOULD BE DEVASTATED RIGHT? Would you just let someone say, sorry you didn't file a piece of paper on time?