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Trump is the closest thing to a fascist we have had as a presidential candidate in modern times. Good hell he instigated a violent attack on the US Capital to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. Stop kidding yourself with this both sides nonsense.
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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Indeed.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
Trump, to Georgia’s state elections official. He knew exactly what Trump was going to try to do, so he recorded it. That audio should have a permanent exhibit at the Smithsonian titled “eternal vigilance for America’s democracy’. I know it’s small potatoes compared to the big hitters of fascism. But it’s the closest we’ve had to it in a long time.I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have.”
“You know what they did and you’re not reporting it,” the president said during the call. “You know, that’s a criminal — that’s a criminal offense. And you know, you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk.”
The sheer amount of whackadoo Trump has vomited these last 8 years (hell, in the last few days) makes everybody tune out and forget the very real threats he has publicly admitted to. But he has done us a favor and put it all out there for everyone to see. It’s on the country to decide if they want to roll the dice on the beginner level fascist one more time.
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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I think it's completely reasonable for you all to see Trump as worse than Harris. Half of the voting public agrees with you. I agree with you that he is a worse person than Harris. I agree that he is a narcissist. I agree that he wishes he was a king and could just get what he wants. But he has no ideology. He couches himself in the language of populism but his lizard brain guides him. And his lizard brain contradicts itself from one sentence to another. This guy has never read a book but somehow he's carrying the torch for Giovanni Gentile? The term is used for shock value and to scare voters. It's use is done in desperation. I don't begrudge anyone thinking Trump is worse than Harris. I just don't agree that his bas brand of politics will lead to far worse policy outcomes than Harris. But my own political philosophy is quite different than most here. I'll reiterate again, I think the best outcome is a Hariis presidency and GOP control of Congress.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostComment
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I cannot imagine believing Trump is smarter than Harris. That's wild.Comment
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Let me repeat: Trump instigated a violent attack on the US Capital to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. He has consistently lied about the outcome of the 2020 election, undermining trust and faith in democracy. If that is not a deal killer for someone, I can't imagine what would be.Originally posted by USUC View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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What part of "I'm not voting for Trump" is not being understood here?Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostComment
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I am reacting to the "both sides are equally bad choices" argument.Originally posted by USUC View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creeksterComment
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To be clear, I'm not making the argument that you should vote for neither candidate. I'm not advocating for any specific voting behavior. I'm simply expressing my belief that the real world policies that CAN be implemented by either candidate will be roughly equally damaging, and that my choice to leave that portion of my ballot blank reflects this belief. Tarrifs are awful. Handouts to constituents are awful. The continued expansion of the regulatory state is awful. Schizophrenic foreign policy is awful. Etc.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
Trump is certainly the most culturally caustic and damaging. He will absolutely claim the election was stolen if he loses. And he'll continue being a total asshole if he wins. People who hate him will continue to descend further into their own extremism. But bad governing is bad governing.Comment
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Trump is worse than Harris. I’d never vote for Harris except for the fact that Trump is the other nominee that could win, thus I'm voting for Harris. In fact, I’m typing this from the line to go in to early vote.
Id vote for a lot of republicans, probably most republicans over Harris."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Also, the distance barrier for politicking needs to be more than 100 feet. I’m sorry, but chasing me down and yelling your candidates name as I’m trying to get from my car to the line isn’t going to make me vote for your candidate…it actually makes me vote against them."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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You are so willfully ignorant it’s obvious your posts aren’t in good faith. You aren’t dumb. It’s not extremism to be mortified of the possibility of 4 more years of Trump after his rhetoric and actions surrounding Ukraine and J6.Originally posted by USUC View Post
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I am the lower tier of the lower tier here, maybe I am misreading but hope I dont come across as attacking those who are for trump or not for harris, I dont think it makes someone less intelligent or anything, just people seem to assume he wont do what he saysOriginally posted by YOhio View PostComment
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Regardless of who you are voting for, these words from Vance are applicable:
If your first reaction is to discount any part of this message based on who said it, you are part of the problem.One final point I’ll say about this, don’t get too personal all the time. One of the things I’ve seen, especially from some of my wife’s friends and some of my friends, is that if they disagree with us on politics, sometimes they’ll get very personal about it.
If you’re discarding a lifelong friendship because somebody votes for the other team, then you’ve made a terrible, terrible mistake, and you should do something different. Like, don't cast aside --
Most of my family obviously is going to vote for Donald Trump and JD Vance -- and if they’re not, actually, I need to talk to them. But I’ve got friends who like me personally, acquaintances who aren’t necessarily going to vote for me. That doesn’t make them bad people. We can’t -- this is my most important advice, whether you vote for me, whether you vote for for Donald Trump, whether you vote for Kamala Harris, don’t cast aside family members and lifelong friendships. Politics is not worth it, and I think we follow that principle will heal the divide in this country.“Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis ChapmanComment
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