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  • BlueK
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 7140

    #6676
    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

    I probably missed Trumps proposal for a national sales tax. He's said a lot of stuff so I don't doubt I've missed some things, but I"ve also read a lot of the Big 4 tax guides on the election and never seen anything in there about a 20% sales tax.
    Tariffs. Thus Jeff said de facto sales tax. There is no way if he jacks up tariffs left and right like he says he wants to do that it won't cause significant inflation. Then if he successfully removes 15 million people from the country, the costs to bring especially food to cosumers will significantly push prices up also. Those are the two things he seems most passionate about doing and they're both inflationary to the max.

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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27798

      #6677
      Originally posted by BlueK View Post

      Tariffs. Thus Jeff said de facto sales tax. There is no way if he jacks up tariffs left and right like he says he wants to do that it won't cause significant inflation. Then if he successfully removes 15 million people from the country, the costs to bring food especially will push prices up also. Those are the two things he seems most passionate about doing and they're both inflationary to the max.
      Right, so calling it a sales tax is factually untrue. There's a big difference between a sales tax and a tariff. But just like Trump's lies, this one isn't understood by average Americans so they take it at face value.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 37873

        #6678
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post

        I probably missed Trumps proposal for a national sales tax. He's said a lot of stuff so I don't doubt I've missed some things, but I"ve also read a lot of the Big 4 tax guides on the election and never seen anything in there about a 20% sales tax.
        So you think its not true? FTR I have no idea what the truth is.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • BlueK
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 7140

          #6679
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post

          Right, so calling it a sales tax is factually untrue. There's a big difference between a sales tax and a tariff. But just like Trump's lies, this one isn't understood by average Americans so they take it at face value.
          Saying there is no truth to it is also deceptive because it strongly implies no one will be paying more because of a new tax. A tariff is a tax and cosumers will pay more as a result. Trump is the one who is lying about what tariffs are or will do.

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69474

            #6680
            Originally posted by Moliere View Post

            Right, so calling it a sales tax is factually untrue. There's a big difference between a sales tax and a tariff. But just like Trump's lies, this one isn't understood by average Americans so they take it at face value.
            It says right in the tweet, "... what I call a Trump sales tax...". It literally says that it is not literally a sales tax.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • fusnik
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 4475

              #6681
              Originally posted by falafel View Post

              So you think it’s not true? FTR I have no idea what the truth is.
              Here’s a couple links:

              https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/12/...ion-china.html

              Trump advisors already letting money managers know that sweeping tariffs are incoming.

              President Trump has proposed a new 10 percent tax on Americans who import goods from abroad combined with an additional 60 percent tax on Americans who import goods from China. Based on 2022 imports, this would represent an ongoing tax increase of $495.7 billion per year, the equivalent of $3,942 for every American household. Trump’s tax would be especially punishing for American manufacturers. More than half of U.S. imports from China and the rest of the world consist of intermediate inputs a, Author(s): Bryan Riley


              This tax think tank is probably where Kamala is getting the 4k tax number since they are conservative and they estimate a 4k increase in burdens in the American family.

              But Moliere knows this he’s just pretending to be ignorant so he can say that both sides lie and he feels better about himself when he votes for Trump.

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              • Northwestcoug
                Cocked and Loaded
                • May 2011
                • 17920

                #6682
                10 bucks says he wanted to see how long his fans would stay in the stands to adore him. I bet some of them would stay even longer than 20 minutes.



                Off the charts weird. But such delicious schadenfreude that Noem is stuck there the whole time dancing along with Trump. May all Trump sycophants enjoy a similar fate.
                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                - SeattleUte

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                • Pelado
                  Bald not naked
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21090

                  #6683
                  Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                  10 bucks says he wanted to see how long his fans would stay in the stands to adore him. I bet some of them would stay even longer than 20 minutes.



                  Off the charts weird. But such delicious schadenfreude that Noem is stuck there the whole time dancing along with Trump. May all Trump sycophants enjoy a similar fate.
                  Kind of funny that he/she/it describes "Hallelujah" as a "religious song".
                  "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                  - Goatnapper'96

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                  • Bo Diddley
                    Senior
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 18714

                    #6684
                    Looks like our ballots are coming in the mail today.

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                    • Northwestcoug
                      Cocked and Loaded
                      • May 2011
                      • 17920

                      #6685
                      So glad we got Harris’s medical exams findings. We can now dodge the bullet of a president that has…allergies.

                      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                      - SeattleUte

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                      • PaloAltoCougar
                        Semper infra dignitatem
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 16916

                        #6686
                        Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                        So glad we got Harris’s medical exams findings. We can now dodge the bullet of a president that has…allergies.

                        Let us not forget that per his personal physician, Trump is the healthiest person ever to hold the presidency. Not to mention that he had self-healing bone spurs.

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                        • myboynoah
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 21719

                          #6687
                          Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                          10 bucks says he wanted to see how long his fans would stay in the stands to adore him. I bet some of them would stay even longer than 20 minutes.



                          Off the charts weird. But such delicious schadenfreude that Noem is stuck there the whole time dancing along with Trump. May all Trump sycophants enjoy a similar fate.
                          Just doesn't matter. MAGA is cult brain wired. It's depressing that this race is a tossup.

                          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #6688
                            Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                            Looks like our ballots are coming in the mail today.
                            Cool... don't waste your vote on a loser:

                            BettingOdds.png
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • LVAllen
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 3230

                              #6689
                              Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                              Kind of funny that he/she/it describes "Hallelujah" as a "religious song".
                              In an ironic twist of fate that has nothing to do with the subject at hand, I was browsing TikTok this morning, and found someone put the lyrics of "Baby Got Back" to "Hallelujah." It was surprisingly awesome.

                              Also, I thought it particularly fantastic that the very first song they played was a big ol' hint to Trump: "Time to Say Goodbye."

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                              • beefytee
                                Board eye candy
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 7542

                                #6690
                                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                                Cool... don't waste your vote on a loser:

                                BettingOdds.png
                                Kind of harsh bringing up that Trump lost the last Presidential election.

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