2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Northwestcoug]

Classy:

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[Moliere]

Huh? She wants to reestablish the guidelines that existed under Roe. She's very open about that.

First off, I don’t believe her when she says that. Second, she’s said many times that the government should not get between a woman and her doctor.

And what does fully healthy mean? Late term abortions happen a lot when abnormalities are found. Is autism an abnormality? What about Down syndrome, is a child that potentially has Down syndrome less of worth than a “normal” child? What about my niece that was born with cerebral palsy? Is her potential life worth less than a “normal” child?

[frank ryan]

I don’t know, seems like she did a good job depending on how you look at it

I guess if you think Trump did well. She got him to make shit up about immigrants and to talk about the border add nauseam.

[falafel]

First off, I don’t believe her when she says that. Second, she’s said many times that the government should not get between a woman and her doctor.

And what does fully healthy mean? Late term abortions happen a lot when abnormalities are found. Is autism an abnormality? What about Down syndrome, is a child that potentially has Down syndrome less of worth than a “normal” child? What about my niece that was born with cerebral palsy? Is her potential life worth less than a “normal” child?

Are we talking straight-up acquisition or simple economic output?

[frank ryan]

It's almost jarring when you see politicians interacting politely.

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That's genuinely nice to see.

[Uncle Ted]

I thought Trump was lying about this...

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RFK Jr, Tulsi and now Grandpa Joe is campaigning from Trump...

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[myboynoah]

First off, I don’t believe her when she says that. Second, she’s said many times that the government should not get between a woman and her doctor.

And what does fully healthy mean? Late term abortions happen a lot when abnormalities are found. Is autism an abnormality? What about Down syndrome, is a child that potentially has Down syndrome less of worth than a “normal” child? What about my niece that was born with cerebral palsy? Is her potential life worth less than a “normal” child?

I don't feel compelled to change what you do you do not believe. I was simply pointing out that indeed she has been open about her views on abortion policy and plan to get back to what existed under Roe. Good heavens, it is a central campaign strategy. The Harris campaign wants to use it as motivating factor. On your second point, seems like a good idea to keep the government out of all of our healthcare decisions, men and women. It's interesting that back during the Obamacare debate, a primary repub talking point was to raise the specter of the government coming between us and our doctors. Where did those repubs go?

Are you asking my opinion concerning those questions in your second paragraph? Happy to share, but I referenced viability, so I'm sure that would cover all of your examples.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't feel compelled to change what you do you do not believe. I was simply pointing out that indeed she has been open about her views on abortion policy and plan to get back to what existed under Roe. Good heavens, it is a central campaign strategy. The Harris campaign wants to use it as motivating factor. On your second point, seems like a good idea to keep the government out of all of our healthcare decisions, men and women. It's interesting that back during the Obamacare debate, a primary repub talking point was to raise the specter of the government coming between us and our doctors. Where did those repubs go?

If I want to beat my kid senseless with a belt, should the government intervene?

[Pelado]

If I want to beat my kid senseless with a belt, should the government intervene?

Depends. What did he do?

[myboynoah]

If I want to beat my kid senseless with a belt, should the government intervene?

Oh brother. Is that a healthcare decision between you and your doctor?

[myboynoah]

Debates really are ridiculous. The format is outdated, leave no room for nuance and they give way too much power to a third party. If we insist on the current format, it needs to be modified. Like have an off-camera panel of bi/nonpartisan fact checkers that must unanimously agree. If a statement is shown to be a lie then the candidates podium drops down six inches. If they lie a lot then by the end of the debate they have to sit on the floor to access their mic.

I think a way better format would be for the two candidates to agree do to three long form podcasts with no time limit, but a minimum of two hours. Each candidate would get to pick one host and the third would be someone from a news organization. No audience, minders, or any of the theater. Just the two candidates having a conversation in between betterhelpnow and athletic greens ads.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Oh brother. Is that a healthcare decision between you and your doctor?

Well, it is a pretty simple principle. Do you think there are any circumstances whatsoever where an unborn child's interests and welfare should be protected by the government? Are those interests 100% superseded by the mother's personal choice?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Depends. What did he do?

[Pelado]

[myboynoah]

Well, it is a pretty simple principle. Do you think there are any circumstances whatsoever where an unborn child's interests and welfare should be protected by the government? Are those interests 100% superseded by the mother's personal choice?

Oh, I see where you're going with that question.

My personal view is that once the fetus reaches viability outside the womb (24 weeks?), then it should be protected by the government outside of certain conditions.