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Originally posted by USUC
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What conspiracy theories? The one where an FBI informant was arrested for giving false information to Congress pursuant an impeachment inquiry, who has ties to Russian intelligence? Do you think it's a coincidence that Trump, who by his own admission has had a lot of things financed by Russian groups, has never criticized Putin and actively lobbies for Russian interests and has somehow turned the GOP Congress into adopting pro-Russia, anti-Ukraine positioning? I know conspiracies are the product of a lack of information, but... that's kind of a lot of coincidences."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under," -
The conspiracy is that any or all of this swayed the election to Trump, which is still beleived among a lot of progressives. I have no doubt all of these are true, i just have seen no evidence that the russians themselves have had any affect on Trump's election or policies. Just because the russians helpes bring to light Dem bad behavior doesn't mean they are responsible for that bad behavior exposed. The fact the Trump is even a threat for reeelction is due to a disfunctional and corrupt DNC and progressive cultural ascendancy. The fact a nakedly corrupt Trump and GOP is in this position isn't the result of Putin pulling strings. Thats silly.Originally posted by Commando View PostComment
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I don't think Trump won because of Russian interference, and I don't read that much about people who are really following that line of thinking other than throwing it out there that Trump couldn't win without help from his buddy Putin. However it is an indisputable fact that Russia poured untold amounts of money into attempting to influence the election via bot farms and whatever else they did. Ok. And you keep saying Russians are just pointing out bad things Democrats have done? What is that about? I am not even aware of whatever it is you're talking about. Why is a nakedly corrupt Trump and GOP have such a boner for Putin? Is it what Jon Stewart asserts-- that Putin is the GOP's ally in the culture war against 'wokeness' and it's just an uncomfortable bedfellow situation? Why has the GOP turned its back on Ukraine? Was that also because of ineptitude from the party in the White House?Originally posted by USUC View Post"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"Comment
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Clinton's hacked emails and the Hunter Biden saga are some that jump to mind. But i don't think these did anything but reinforce the already sleazy reputation of Clinton and Biden. I was under the impression that the "untold amount of money" spent by russia on social media was a gross exaggeration, but i cant find souces so i won't argue that point, but im just not sold on the idea that a meme of Jesus arm wrestling the devil made people on social media vote for Trump. Its what Clinton stood for or was perceived as representing.Originally posted by Commando View Post
I don't think most of the GOP base or conservative leaning voters have any love or infatuation with Putin. I don't think Putin drives them one way or another. I don't think even most GOP politicians do either. But the majority of online MAGA types and influencers most certainly do and the dumbest of the dumb MAGA politicians appear to as well. I think a lot of them are just authoritarians. I think some do genuinely like the anti LGBTQ stance of Russia. Some like him because they are just contrarians. And it is a huge problem that GOP politicians and talking heads who don't buy into this are cowards and don't push back. Spineless cowards.Originally posted by Commando View PostComment
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I don't think this is a threat normal Americans should take lightly. Please vote against the current trend of the Republican party and its push toward authoritarianism.Originally posted by Maximus View PostComment
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The craziest part of all this is that it's Donald Trump that is the root cause of it all. The TV guy. The real estate investor that isn't any smarter than my 16 year old son. Sometimes in the quiet of hte night I think about the fact that Donald Trump is single handedly responsible for pretty much all of the above and it just blows my mind.Originally posted by fusnik View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Meanwhile, Putin continues to look for more Americans to kidnap.Originally posted by Moliere View PostComment
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Russia's fingerprints are all over Trump's decision-making.Originally posted by Moliere View Post
I remember when news that Russian had place bounties on the heads of US GIs in Afghanistan came out, Trump didn't utter a criticism against Russia or Putin but he will lambast NATO at any opportunity.
I think the guy has serious issues and lacks the capacity to consider how his actions impact others on a scale that surpassed any other occupant of the White House. I think he is getting more unstable and antisocial and tolerates fewer dissenting voices in his inner circle than he did before.
He will be worse than before and will have even less forces to hold him accountable.
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These conspiracy theories are fine and all but its weird that all of Russia's fortunes have occured during the presidencies of Obama and Biden. [QUOTE]
What informed your opinion on Russia's fortune. If you really think Trump hasn't been more helpful than Obama or Bush, I think you're under informed .
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These conspiracy theories are fine and all but its weird that all of Russia's fortunes have occured during the presidencies of Obama and Biden.Trump has definitely been more helpful. But this all started with Russia taking Crimea under Obama's watch and it seems like Obama's reaction was pretty much "well, not much we can do about that"
What informed your opinion on Russia's fortune. If you really think Trump hasn't been more helpful than Obama or Bush, I think you're under informed .
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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My initial comment was a dig at the ludicrousness of the notion that Russia was responsible for Trump being elected. It's just as ludicrous of MAGA folks suggesting that the invasions into Ukraine were the fault of Obama and Biden and wouldn't have happened under Trump. Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin is a revanchist (as is much of the Russian people), Europe being unserious about their own role is security, and Ukraine's own fractured political situation. America is important in world affairs but not everything revolves around us.Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
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[QUOTE=Moliere;n2311342][QUOTE=frank ryan;n2311335]I think it started with W and Putin's invasion of Georgia. Obama was absolutely weak on Russia. His backing away from providing Poland and others with defensive missile systems was a chicken shit cowardly call. Obama's weakness in responding to Russia's 2014 invasion of Ukraine was pretty evident as well.Originally posted by USUC View Post
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I thought this was interesting. Despite Trump appearing to run away with the Republican nomination, according to current polling, Haley's challenge seems to be leaving Trump with a base consisting of almost all white, over 50, and without a college degree. And most of Haley's voters had left Trump some time ago.
https://apnews.com/article/takeaways...96b7f39eb9f38fComment
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But "the black people" like him because he has been discriminated against in the legal system, just as they have been. His sufferings are similar to those described in a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where a participant in Survivor argued that he had it worse than those in the Holocaust.Originally posted by BlueK View PostComment
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Lol mitch.. going to endorse trump
Your righteousness didn't last long
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...e-endorsement/Comment
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