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  • People are complicated. Families are really complicated. Biden obviously loves his family but is still icing his granddaughter. Trump appears to be a great father and grandfather, but says weird shit about his daughter. I have a hard time with people making uninformed comments about parental success to make a political point. And they’re always going to be uninformed.

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    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

      Elon is great at dehumanizing and disowning his children.
      At least Elon has children
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        People are complicated. Families are really complicated. Biden obviously loves his family but is still icing his granddaughter. Trump appears to be a great father and grandfather, but says weird shit about his daughter. I have a hard time with people making uninformed comments about parental success to make a political point. And they’re always going to be uninformed.
        I dont think any good parent in the world would say their kid is dead when their kid is alive.

        his kid is literally dead to him since the kid is lgbt. he is not a good person.

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        • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

          I dont think any good parent in the world would say their kid is dead when their kid is alive.

          his kid is literally dead to him since the kid is lgbt. he is not a good person.
          I feel like there is deliberate omissions of the dull story here. This is too neat and tidy of a progressive story to be accurate.

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          • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

            I dont think any good parent in the world would say their kid is dead when their kid is alive.

            his kid is literally dead to him since the kid is lgbt. he is not a good person.
            This sounds akin to Biden ignoring his grandchild…
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

              This sounds akin to Biden ignoring his grandchild…
              sounds like a whatabout

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              • Originally posted by USUC View Post

                I feel like there is deliberate omissions of the dull story here. This is too neat and tidy of a progressive story to be accurate.

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                • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                  He said his kid is dead because the kid is trans.
                  Specifically, that kid was infected with the "woke mind virus".
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

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                  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                    Having now watched the full segment elsewhere, I think its a bit more nuanced than what you are suggesting. I am under no illusion that Musk would be a good dad. People in his position rarely are. But his "son" has refused to continue his relationship with him. It may be justified. What I think Musk is trying to convey is that because his son transitioned, the child's identity as a son was now dead. While his child is still alive, his son is dead. I'm not going to make a judgment on their relationship because I don't know but it's clear Musk is a weirdo. But he is just saying what most trans people themselves would say. They don't identify with the gender they were (wrongly) assigned to and now that they have transitioned, their old identity (which was a false identity) is dead.

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                    • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                      This sounds akin to Biden ignoring his grandchild…
                      No, it doesn't. Elon is making it all about him and being the victim. This one isn't a difficult conclusion to come to, and it's not a matter of politics. There's also perspectives out there from the other affected people in the scenario.

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                      • Originally posted by USUC View Post

                        Having now watched the full segment elsewhere, I think its a bit more nuanced than what you are suggesting. I am under no illusion that Musk would be a good dad. People in his position rarely are. But his "son" has refused to continue his relationship with him. It may be justified. What I think Musk is trying to convey is that because his son transitioned, the child's identity as a son was now dead. While his child is still alive, his son is dead. I'm not going to make a judgment on their relationship because I don't know but it's clear Musk is a weirdo. But he is just saying what most trans people themselves would say. They don't identify with the gender they were (wrongly) assigned to and now that they have transitioned, their old identity (which was a false identity) is dead.
                        I'm aware of dead-naming. He dead-named his child during that interview with using her old name. His child tells a different story. One in which Elon wasn't father of the year. He's

                        "Elon Musk’s daughter Vivian Jenna Wilson painted a scathing picture of her father in an interview on Thursday, describing the billionaire as a cruel absentee father, who bullied her for appearing queer and feminine, then lied about her medical care as part of his recent turn towards attacking transgender people.

                        Musk, during a recent interview with psychologist and conservative commentator Jordan Peterson, misgendered Wilson, used her dead name, and described her coming out as transgender as being “killed by the woke mind virus.”

                        The comments inspired Wilson, now a 20-year-old college student studying languages, to offer her first public interview to NBC News.

                        “I think he was under the assumption that I wasn’t going to say anything and I would just let this go, unchallenged,” she said. “Which I’m not going to do because if you’re going to lie about me, like, blatantly to an audience of millions, I’m not just gonna let that slide.”

                        The 20-year-old accused Musk of largely being absent from her life despite holding joint custody, and of bullying her for being queer and exhibiting feminine traits, including allegedly urging her to lower her voice as a young child'

                        “I was in fourth grade. We went on this road trip that I didn’t know was actually just an advertisement for one of the cars — I don’t remember which one — and he was constantly yelling at me viciously because my voice was too high,” Wilson said. “It was cruel.”

                        Wilson, the daughter of Musk and his first wife, author Justine Musk, took particular issue with the billionaire’s claim in the Peterson interview that he had been “tricked” into approving gender-affirming medical care for the youth.

                        “He was not by any means tricked,” Wilson said, describing Musk’s decision to provide parental approval to care that came to include puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy. She said her father read over medical documents about the care multiple times.

                        “They save lives. Let’s not get that twisted,” she said in the NBC interview. “They definitely allowed me to thrive.”



                        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2586189.html

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                        • Nicolas Maduro doesn't like Elon Musk either... that damn Musk is trying to invade Venezuela with his Rockets!



                          I guess Maduro is a democrat.
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                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            People are complicated. Families are really complicated. Biden obviously loves his family but is still icing his granddaughter. Trump appears to be a great father and grandfather, but says weird shit about his daughter. I have a hard time with people making uninformed comments about parental success to make a political point. And they’re always going to be uninformed.
                            Stop being so reasonable. There are only good and evil people and YOU HAVE TO PICK A SIDE.

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                            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Nicolas Maduro doesn't like Elon Musk either... that damn Musk is trying to invade Venezuela with his Rockets!



                              I guess Maduro is a democrat.
                              He's not a democrat. He's buddies with Putin though.

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                              • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post

                                Stop being so reasonable. There are only good and evil people and YOU HAVE TO PICK A SIDE.
                                well lets be honest about the "weird comments" on his daughter, telling everyone he wants to have sex with her since she was a child

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