So the ward YM presidencies are gone, but they'll call YM advisors to assist the bishopric? What's the real difference?
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That’s what I am wondering. Greater emphasis on youth leadership?Originally posted by Pelado View PostSo the ward YM presidencies are gone, but they'll call YM advisors to assist the bishopric? What's the real difference?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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The way I view it is that the members of the YM presidency had primary responsibility to advise their respective quorums, with assistant advisors. Now that responsibility is the bishopric's. They can be re-called to assist, but ultimately it's the member of the bishopric's job now.Originally posted by Pelado View PostSo the ward YM presidencies are gone, but they'll call YM advisors to assist the bishopric? What's the real difference?
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Budge with a solid talk."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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It was always the Bishop's job, but Bishops were too busy looking after adult members so it became the role of the young mens presidents. It's good that the job now belongs to the whole Bishopric, and men will now be called as their advisors.Originally posted by LVAllen View PostThe way I view it is that the members of the YM presidency had primary responsibility to advise their respective quorums, with assistant advisors. Now that responsibility is the bishopric's. They can be re-called to assist, but ultimately it's the member of the bishopric's job now.
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The Bishop will always remain as judge in Israel, so responsibility for temple recommend interviews will remain with the Bisopric. As well, the EQ President and Relief Society president are already responsible for ministering to the adult members. And now, Young Women's presidents are expected to take on a greater role in counselling the young women. So, is there any reason why a Ward council shouldn't be more involved in decisions concerning Ward organizational callings?Originally posted by beefytee View PostDo they move temple recommend interviews to the elders quorum and relief society presidencies? Are they going to be more responsible for Ward callings now? That seems to be what needs to happen to free up the bishopric for the youth.
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What about it concerns you?Originally posted by Green Monstah View PostThe change to YM organizations is the first hold-my-root-beer change that concerns me."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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I think something like this is long over due. For far too long adult members have monopolized the Bishop's time. Now, the bishopric can legitimately tell people: speak to the EQ or RS President. I have to look after the youth.Originally posted by Green Monstah View PostThe change to YM organizations is the first hold-my-root-beer change that concerns me.
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Concerns meaning affects, or concerns meaning worries?Originally posted by Green Monstah View PostThe change to YM organizations is the first hold-my-root-beer change that concerns me.
In ways I see these changes as institutionalizing what some recognized as best practices already. In my transient period between graduating from law school and setting into our current home we had 6 or 7 different bishops (a combination of moving and releases). At least one was doing exactly what was instructed today. As president of the priests quorum he was in class with them every week, attended every activity, and clearly stated that he considered it his primary responsibility.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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My Bishopric is in class and at weekday activities most of the time.Originally posted by All-American View PostConcerns meaning affects, or concerns meaning worries?
In ways I see these changes as institutionalizing what some recognized as best practices already. In my transient period between graduating from law school and setting into our current home we had 6 or 7 different bishops (a combination of moving and releases). At least one was doing exactly what was instructed today. As president of the priests quorum he was in class with them every week, attended every activity, and clearly stated that he considered it his primary responsibility.
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