Elderbednarophobia

[SoonerCoug]

Please read this quote from Elder Bednar and then tell me why I shouldn't be afraid of him:

Anything I know, anything I've learned, anything I've come to understand about the processes of organizing, or learning, or influencing are grounded in the truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Now I've studied at some good universities but I've never learned anything from books or scholars that has had an impact on what I do in my service in the church or in my family, not a thing.
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I think it's very important that we have the proper perspective. The gospel informs our scholarship, our scholarship does not inform the gospel. And when we lose sight of that perspective then I think we're headed for trouble, so would you please just keep in mind we view scholarship in a discipline through the lens of the gospel, we do not view the gospel through the lens of scholarship.
And if we maintain that perceptive then indeed we'll be fine...

[LiveCoug]

That was super scary. Thanks for sharing.

[SoonerCoug]

That was super scary. Thanks for sharing.

This man was president of a university and he claims that scholarship ain't so important. What a nitwit.

[Blueintheface]

A spokesperson for a church I no longer attend said everything of value he learned from the gospel. I'm getting under a table.

[YOhio]

Please read this quote from Elder Bednar and then tell me why I shouldn't be afraid of him:

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You should be afraid of him because as a special witness of Jesus Christ he'll likely have to testify against you at judgment. Maybe it's time you soften that big heart of yours and stop trash talking apostles.

[falafel]

This man was president of a university and he claims that scholarship ain't so important. What a nitwit.

Pretty sure that's not what he said.

[SoonerCoug]

You should be afraid of him because as a special witness of Jesus Christ he'll likely have to testify against you at judgment. Maybe it's time you soften that big heart of yours and stop trash talking apostles.

I would welcome the opportunity to debate Bednar under any circumstances.

But no mythology could frighten me. I would just as soon be afraid of Thor's hammer or Medusa.

[Pelado]

I would welcome the opportunity to debate Bednar under any circumstances.

But no mythology could frighten me. I would just as soon be afraid of Thor's hammer or Medusa.

I'm afraid of Medusa.

[YOhio]

I would welcome the opportunity to debate Bednar under any circumstances.

But no mythology could frighten me. I would just as soon be afraid of Thor's hammer or Medusa.

Too late to act like a tough guy after you admitted to being afraid of Bednar in your first post.

[ERCougar]

I've never learned anything from books or scholars that has had an impact on what I do in my service in the church or in my family, not a thing.

I know jumping on Sooner is the thing to do here, but you've got to admit, that's crazy talk.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I know jumping on Sooner is the thing to do here, but you've got to admit, that's crazy talk.

Yeah, that was a poor statement, but sometimes people make statements even they don't believe for dramatic effect, like saying how a talk from a leader of a faith you've discarded makes you very afraid.

P.S. For fun, sooner should go back through all of Bednar's talks and find an instance where he quoted an author outside of the church or scripture. Then he'd have another "Gotcha!"

[TripletDaddy]

You have nothing to fear...unless you happen to be wearing Giants gear

[clackamascoug]

I like Bednar's perspective of viewing scientific things through the lens (sp?)(Vandelay, we need a ruling) of the gospel. My views on multidimensional probability are only viewed through a Gospel lense. Science now claims that multiple dimensions are a fact as true as evolution, or gravity, yet many are hesitant to embrace the science because it moves their cheese too far. Years ago when I considered multiple dimensions of reality, I looked at it in a Gospel context and wondered how it fit in the the Gospel of Jesus Christ paradigm, and the pieces started falling into place. World's without end, Infinite Atonement, Singular Crucifixion applicable Universally, Omnipresence, Omnipotence, Omniscience, Sin, Repentance, Plurality of Marriage, and the list goes on... Looking at science through the lense of the Gospel of Jesus Christ does not dilute science, it enhances it because it gives purpose to the wonderment of God's creations.

Statements like Sooners are essential to my bell curve salvation. Keep 'em coming!

[SoonerCoug]

I like Bednar's perspective of viewing scientific things through the lens (sp?)(Vandelay, we need a ruling) of the gospel. My views on multidimensional probability are only viewed through a Gospel lense. Science now claims that multiple dimensions are a fact as true as evolution, or gravity, yet many are hesitant to embrace the science because it moves their cheese too far. Years ago when I considered multiple dimensions of reality, I looked at it in a Gospel context and wondered how it fit in the the Gospel of Jesus Christ paradigm, and the pieces started falling into place. World's without end, Infinite Atonement, Singular Crucifixion applicable Universally, Omnipresence, Omnipotence, Omniscience, Sin, Repentance, Plurality of Marriage, and the list goes on... Looking at science through the lense of the Gospel of Jesus Christ does not dilute science, it enhances it because it gives purpose to the wonderment of creation.

Statements like Sooners are essential to my bell curve salvation. Keep 'em coming!

Tell me what the evidence is for multiple dimensions?

Scientists care about evidence--not superstition.

Mathematical models / predictions do not constitute evidence.

That said, it may be possible or even likely that there are multiple dimensions. But none of this implies or even remotely suggests the existence of a supreme being or anything supernatural at all.

[Pheidippides]

I know jumping on Sooner is the thing to do here, but you've got to admit, that's crazy talk.

Actually, Bednar is an organizational management guy. So he may be telling the truth.