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  • Originally posted by Pheidippides View Post
    A new NYT article is out, and it paints a much broader picture than Kate and John:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/us...y.html?hp&_r=1
    Maybe Lebowski could be in trouble.
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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    • Kate Kelly is apparently releasing the names and other information in her bishopric that is holding the court. Not sure if this is a scorched earth approach, but she might be in need of some friendly counsel before she really blows this thing up.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
        TitheFive.org - who's with me?
        You know, one of the reasons, maybe the reason this OW thing is so productive or destructive -- depending on your perspective -- is it forces people to think about the source of their beliefs they have simply taken for granted. Eventually you ask yourself: Why has the priesthood been limited to men anyway? Why have women been treated differently? In monotheism? in any walk of life? Why is this situation different from blacks and the priesthood?
        Last edited by SeattleUte; 06-18-2014, 09:52 PM.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          Kate Kelly is apparently releasing the names and other information in her bishopric that is holding the court. Not sure if this is a scorched earth approach, but she might be in need of some friendly counsel before she really blows this thing up.
          I haven't seen this yet - do you have a source. Playing devils advocate for a moment, if she thinks excommunication is a fait accompli, why not go scorched earth?
          Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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          • Originally posted by Pheidippides View Post
            I haven't seen this yet - do you have a source. Playing devils advocate for a moment, if she thinks excommunication is a fait accompli, why not go scorched earth?
            Maybe she is just making the leaders think about if they really want to fall on the sword.
            "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

            "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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            • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
              Maybe Lebowski could be in trouble.
              That might be a podcast I'd listen to! I may even light a candle at a vigil on his behalf.
              "Nobody listens to Turtle."
              -Turtle
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              • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                Maybe she is just making the leaders think about if they really want to fall on the sword.
                It would represent a shift in her approach.
                Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                • Originally posted by Pheidippides View Post
                  I haven't seen this yet - do you have a source. Playing devils advocate for a moment, if she thinks excommunication is a fait accompli, why not go scorched earth?
                  Some guy on Facebook copied and pasted the post and Kate Kelly actually commented to verify it was by her. I'm not FB friends with her so I can't see it.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    Some guy on Facebook copied and pasted the post and Kate Kelly actually commented to verify it was by her. I'm not FB friends with her so I can't see it.
                    So what exactly did she do? The identity of her bishop and SP have not been secret for some time.
                    Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                    • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                      Maybe Lebowski could be in trouble.
                      For hanging out with you jokers? Probably.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • I don't put a lot of stock in it being that big but the fallout of a systematic attempt to silence all bloggers, tweeters, etc. would be LOL hilarious. Changed your Facebook profile pic to a red equal sign? You're out. Tweeted that you think Utah is dumb for pursuing the same sex marriage issue to the Supreme Court? You're out. Tweeted a picture of your gay friend's wedding. You're out.
                        "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                        • Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                          I don't put a lot of stock in it being that big but the fallout of a systematic attempt to silence all bloggers, tweeters, etc. would be LOL hilarious. Changed your Facebook profile pic to a red equal sign? You're out. Tweeted that you think Utah is dumb for pursuing the same sex marriage issue to the Supreme Court? You're out. Tweeted a picture of your gay friend's wedding. You're out.
                          Yeah, you're probably safe as long as you aren't staging public protests outside of church meetings. Even then you might get away with it.
                          τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Kate Kelly is apparently releasing the names and other information in her bishopric that is holding the court. Not sure if this is a scorched earth approach, but she might be in need of some friendly counsel before she really blows this thing up.
                            What exactly is she releasing?
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                              What exactly is she releasing?
                              Just enough to make their public existence very uncomfortable.

                              Apparently, she has determined to go down kicking and screaming.
                              τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                              • Originally posted by All-American View Post
                                Just enough to make their public existence very uncomfortable.

                                Apparently, she has determined to go down kicking and screaming.
                                Good.if they are doing what's good and right they should not be afraid to step forward. Always nice to know something about the inquisitors.

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