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  • MartyFunkhouser
    Disciple of RNGesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 18714

    #3781
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    Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 10-09-2019, 12:12 PM.
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    • SeattleUte
      Faith crisis consultant
      • Nov 2008
      • 20837

      #3782
      Is this news because he's Elizabeth Smart's father?
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • creekster
        It is NOT a monkey!
        • Nov 2008
        • 22661

        #3783
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        Is this news because he's Elizabeth Smart's father?
        Surely you can put this together on your own?
        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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        • Pelado
          Bald not naked
          • Sep 2010
          • 21088

          #3784
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          Am I the only one of this board that didn't think Ed Smart was gay?
          Probably.

          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          I know some members that have taken big issue with gay men leaving their wives. I can understand some of the anger, but these men entered into a marriage sometimes at the urging of church leaders, and if not at the urging of church leaders, surely from undue pressure, either explicitly or implicitly, to be in a heterosexual marriage. Some have been happy and stayed throughout the marriage. Others have been unhappy and with public acceptance of homosexuality they now find it tenable to leave the marriage. I can only imagine this wasn't easy for anyone in the Smart home, but I bet both Ed and Lois will recover and be happier. I find it great that he stayed until his kids were grown and it seems they can all handle this. I mean, if they can handle what Elizabeth went through, they can handle anything.
          Surprised you're not saving that content for the podcast.

          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          he's Elizabeth Smart's father?
          Yes.

          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          Is this news
          No.
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          • Eddie
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 8098

            #3785
            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            Am I the only one of this board that didn't think Ed Smart was gay?
            I really didn't think about it one way or the other. So it surprised me to see the news - but looking back and remembering him in the news, it isn't shocking.

            Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
            Some of the comments on the desnews article are really sad.

            The DesNews also outed him without his permission. I really have a problem with outing someone without their permission.
            SALT LAKE CITY — Ed Smart, the father of kidnapping survivor Elizabeth Smart, has announced that he is gay. “This is one of the hardest letters I have ever written,” he wrote Friday in a public Facebook post. “Hard because I am finally acknowledging a part of me that I have struggled with most of my


            The SLTrib also posted the now deleted Facebook post. I also think this was a poor choice as well.
            The comments are bad. Some are really bad and really lack any kind of empathy or insight whatsoever.

            I have a problem outing someone without their permission - but the reality is that if he put it on his facebook page in a public space, then he kind of outed himself, didn't he? I suspect he didn't think it would be news for KSL, FOX, etc. to jump on - so I get that. But it isn't like this was told to someone in private and they violated some sort of confidence. Unfortunate for something like this to get the amount of attention it did in this day and age - but I don't think you can say someone else outed him. He did that to himself.

            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            I know some members that have taken big issue with gay men leaving their wives. I can understand some of the anger, but these men entered into a marriage sometimes at the urging of church leaders, and if not at the urging of church leaders, surely from undue pressure, either explicitly or implicitly, to be in a heterosexual marriage. Some have been happy and stayed throughout the marriage. Others have been unhappy and with public acceptance of homosexuality they now find it tenable to leave the marriage. I can only imagine this wasn't easy for anyone in the Smart home, but I bet both Ed and Lois will recover and be happier. I find it great that he stayed until his kids were grown and it seems they can all handle this. I mean, if they can handle what Elizabeth went through, they can handle anything.
            The couple I mentioned earlier - the ex-wife was pretty angry when it happened.

            I kind of skipped this part of the story - but apparently before they ever married they had a conversation in which he described himself as somewhat bisexual. He indicated to her that he was also attracted to men, but wanted that he had "dealt with this issues" and wanted to be in a heterosexual relationship. So she was pretty bitter that he went into it knowing what choice he was making and in her mind had committed to that relationship - only to decide it wasn't working for him.

            I get it. I get why he decided to leave. But I also don't blame her for being frustrated and angry when he did.

            Honestly - I'm not sure how I would react if it were me and my wife told me that she loved me, but really was into chicks when it comes to sex and has decided to get a divorce to pursue sexual relationships she would find more fulfilling. I love her dearly, but I don't think I would take it all that well. (I think I could be "adult" and cordial on the outside. But I think there are elements of the situation that would be emotionally devastating. I also recognize that there would be elements of that decision and situation that would be devastating to her as well.)

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            • SeattleUte
              Faith crisis consultant
              • Nov 2008
              • 20837

              #3786
              Originally posted by creekster View Post
              Surely you can put this together on your own?
              Doesn’t seem like enough reason.
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • Topper
                Pre-Historic Man
                • Nov 2011
                • 11764

                #3787
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                Doesn’t seem like enough reason.
                Only news in Utah. It took a minute before I figured out who he was and why should I care. Mind you, I don't care, but wondered why it became news.
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                • creekster
                  It is NOT a monkey!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22661

                  #3788
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  Doesn’t seem like enough reason.
                  You're asking if it should be news. I don't think so. But it is news because his daughter was abducted and everything they do is now of public interest, apparently.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Clark Addison
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10290

                    #3789
                    It's on the front page of cnn.com, fwiw.

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #3790
                      Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
                      It's on the front page of cnn.com, fwiw.

                      https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/us/ed...rnd/index.html
                      Ha. CNN is such a joke. Fox News of the left.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • happyone
                        Board Bookworm
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5385

                        #3791
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        Ha. CNN is such a joke. Fox News of the left.
                        and here I thought that MSNBC

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69466

                          #3792
                          Ha. I am loving the right wing version of SU.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12268

                            #3793
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Ha. I am loving the right wing version of SU.
                            oh my, don't encourage his Cleon Skousenization.

                            I hold out hope the old SU will reappear.

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #3794
                              Originally posted by happyone View Post
                              and here I thought that MSNBC
                              That too. There are more left-biased media. CNN, CNBC, Fox all 100% garbage.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • beefytee
                                Board eye candy
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 7542

                                #3795
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                That too. There are more left-biased media. CNN, CNBC, Fox all 100% garbage.
                                Yep. I haven't watched any of the news channels outside of election night is over a decade. Fox News ruined them all.

                                I miss the CNN of the eighties and early nineties.

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