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  • Pelado
    Bald not naked
    • Sep 2010
    • 21065

    #2521
    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    On the wikipedia list of most expensive books, they're listed by what the sale/auction price was, this is now the most expensive book in the world. It supplanted a manuscript from Leonardo Davinci and an original copy of the Magna Carta.

    Personally, I believe the guy who said the church got an amazing deal on this book. Clearly if Leonardo DaVinci's manuscript is worth $30 million, this BoM is easily worth $100 million.
    In fairness to Leonardo's notebook, Wikipedia indicates that it sold for less than $35 million, but the adjusted price (presumably for inflation) is $49.8 million.

    So, more like:

    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    Magna Carter Book of Mormon Leonardo Davinci
    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
    - Goatnapper'96

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    • Pelado
      Bald not naked
      • Sep 2010
      • 21065

      #2522
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Does that really make a difference?
      Just saying that it's possible that the generous donors may not have known or cared how the Church was going to use the generous donations.
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
      - Goatnapper'96

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      • Color Me Badd Fan
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 12519

        #2523
        Originally posted by Pelado View Post
        In fairness to Leonardo's notebook, Wikipedia indicates that it sold for less than $35 million, but the adjusted price (presumably for inflation) is $49.8 million.

        So, more like:
        Bill Gates apparently bought that Leonardo manuscript. I wonder if he was the buyer on the other side of the negotiation when the RLDS did us a favor and cut $65 million off the price?
        Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 09-22-2017, 10:36 AM.
        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69407

          #2524
          Originally posted by Pelado View Post
          Just saying that it's possible that the generous donors may not have known or cared how the Church was going to use the generous donations.
          I find that extraordinarily unlikely.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • MartyFunkhouser
            Disciple of RNGesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 18699

            #2525
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Meh. Some donors came up with the money. In other words they donated money specifically to buy the manuscript. Had the manuscript not been for sale the money would not have been donated. Not sure what the big deal is.
            Lebowski thinks that something the church does is no big deal. Shocking.
            As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
            --Kendrick Lamar

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            • MartyFunkhouser
              Disciple of RNGesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 18699

              #2526
              Originally posted by Pelado View Post
              The quote I saw didn't say that the donors had specified the purchase of the manuscript, only that the cash for the purchase was acquired from generous donors.
              That seems to make it even more like that generous donors is code for tithing payers.
              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
              --Kendrick Lamar

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69407

                #2527
                Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                Lebowski thinks that something the church does is no big deal. Shocking.
                Haha. You are probably the worst qualified poster here to make that observation.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Uncle Ted
                  The Big 12 money shot.
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 28853

                  #2528
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  It makes me wonder if the donors count the $35 million as a tithing in kind donation. Meaning the church would have gotten $35 million in cash but instead ended up (happily) with the manuscript.


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                  Yeah, I usually do that when paying tithing... Do a donation in kind to BYU. Count it as tithing. It makes me feel much better that the Lord's money is being put to good use.
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69407

                    #2529
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                    It makes me wonder if the donors count the $35 million as a tithing in kind donation. Meaning the church would have gotten $35 million in cash but instead ended up (happily) with the manuscript.
                    Could be. But your theory would only work if:

                    1) They had not already paid their tithing for the year
                    2) The amount they owe in tithing is equal to or greater than the donation amount
                    3) There are inclined to count a specific donation like this as tithing.

                    Anyone who can donate that kind of money is probably donating to a lot of causes, inside and outside of the church.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • SteelBlue
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 8168

                      #2530
                      This is America and generous donors may of course spend their money however they'd like. Even if it's a drop in the bucket to them, I reserve the right to be unimpressed. If one is looking to make a massive donation to a church, it's difficult to imagine one that would have less functional impact on the people in that church or on the people of the world. I'm seriously trying to come up with anything. Hell, for $35 million you could pay Cristiano Ronaldo to smile and kick a soccer ball around Temple Square in his off season and it would do more good for the church. Congrats, I guess, on the acquisition of a notebook that will sit in a granite vault and is likely to actually be seen only by a select few. For anyone else I'm sure there'll be photos (maybe they were already public, that would be kind of funny and a little sad).

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                      • Flystripper
                        Degenerate Gambler
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14087

                        #2531
                        nailed it
                        Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                        • smokymountainrain
                          Impressive Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22593

                          #2532
                          Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
                          This is America and generous donors may of course spend their money however they'd like. Even if it's a drop in the bucket to them, I reserve the right to be unimpressed. If one is looking to make a massive donation to a church, it's difficult to imagine one that would have less functional impact on the people in that church or on the people of the world. I'm seriously trying to come up with anything. Hell, for $35 million you could pay Cristiano Ronaldo to smile and kick a soccer ball around Temple Square in his off season and it would do more good for the church. Congrats, I guess, on the acquisition of a notebook that will sit in a granite vault and is likely to actually be seen only by a select few. For anyone else I'm sure there'll be photos (maybe they were already public, that would be kind of funny and a little sad).
                          I'm like LeBron James.
                          -mpfunk

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                          • creekster
                            It is NOT a monkey!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22661

                            #2533
                            I haven't thought too much about the donation and purchase but I have to think there is more to this story than we have heard. There is either some additional intrinsic value to the manuscript or the money came with strings, or it was a lifeline to the RLDS )or whatever they are called now) or something. It just seems unlikely to me that this was a straight competitive bidding situation resulting in a price of 35 million. Possible, but unlikely, for many of the reasons stated in this thread. I am not sure if the other information, assuming it exists, would make a difference, but I think I would like to hear more about it before deciding. If it turns out that this was a straight purchase, and if the manuscript is nothing more than what it appears to be, then it does seem pretty hard to justify.
                            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69407

                              #2534
                              Originally posted by creekster View Post
                              I haven't thought too much about the donation and purchase but I have to think there is more to this story than we have heard. There is either some additional intrinsic value to the manuscript or the money came with strings, or it was a lifeline to the RLDS )or whatever they are called now) or something. It just seems unlikely to me that this was a straight competitive bidding situation resulting in a price of 35 million. Possible, but unlikely, for many of the reasons stated in this thread. I am not sure if the other information, assuming it exists, would make a difference, but I think I would like to hear more about it before deciding. If it turns out that this was a straight purchase, and if the manuscript is nothing more than what it appears to be, then it does seem pretty hard to justify.
                              Value is subjective. Will be interesting to see how this purchase is perceived a decade or two down the road.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • myboynoah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 21719

                                #2535
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                Value is subjective. Will be interesting to see how this purchase is perceived a decade or two down the road.
                                By then the adjusted price will likely be something like 35 gabillion dollars.
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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