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"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Just saying that it's possible that the generous donors may not have known or cared how the Church was going to use the generous donations.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDoes that really make a difference?"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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Bill Gates apparently bought that Leonardo manuscript. I wonder if he was the buyer on the other side of the negotiation when the RLDS did us a favor and cut $65 million off the price?Originally posted by Pelado View PostIn fairness to Leonardo's notebook, Wikipedia indicates that it sold for less than $35 million, but the adjusted price (presumably for inflation) is $49.8 million.
So, more like:Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 09-22-2017, 10:36 AM.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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I find that extraordinarily unlikely.Originally posted by Pelado View PostJust saying that it's possible that the generous donors may not have known or cared how the Church was going to use the generous donations."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Lebowski thinks that something the church does is no big deal. Shocking.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostMeh. Some donors came up with the money. In other words they donated money specifically to buy the manuscript. Had the manuscript not been for sale the money would not have been donated. Not sure what the big deal is.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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That seems to make it even more like that generous donors is code for tithing payers.Originally posted by Pelado View PostThe quote I saw didn't say that the donors had specified the purchase of the manuscript, only that the cash for the purchase was acquired from generous donors.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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Haha. You are probably the worst qualified poster here to make that observation.Originally posted by mpfunk View PostLebowski thinks that something the church does is no big deal. Shocking."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Yeah, I usually do that when paying tithing... Do a donation in kind to BYU. Count it as tithing. It makes me feel much better that the Lord's money is being put to good use.Originally posted by Moliere View PostIt makes me wonder if the donors count the $35 million as a tithing in kind donation. Meaning the church would have gotten $35 million in cash but instead ended up (happily) with the manuscript.
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"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Could be. But your theory would only work if:Originally posted by Moliere View PostIt makes me wonder if the donors count the $35 million as a tithing in kind donation. Meaning the church would have gotten $35 million in cash but instead ended up (happily) with the manuscript.
1) They had not already paid their tithing for the year
2) The amount they owe in tithing is equal to or greater than the donation amount
3) There are inclined to count a specific donation like this as tithing.
Anyone who can donate that kind of money is probably donating to a lot of causes, inside and outside of the church."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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This is America and generous donors may of course spend their money however they'd like. Even if it's a drop in the bucket to them, I reserve the right to be unimpressed. If one is looking to make a massive donation to a church, it's difficult to imagine one that would have less functional impact on the people in that church or on the people of the world. I'm seriously trying to come up with anything. Hell, for $35 million you could pay Cristiano Ronaldo to smile and kick a soccer ball around Temple Square in his off season and it would do more good for the church. Congrats, I guess, on the acquisition of a notebook that will sit in a granite vault and is likely to actually be seen only by a select few. For anyone else I'm sure there'll be photos (maybe they were already public, that would be kind of funny and a little sad).
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Originally posted by SteelBlue View PostThis is America and generous donors may of course spend their money however they'd like. Even if it's a drop in the bucket to them, I reserve the right to be unimpressed. If one is looking to make a massive donation to a church, it's difficult to imagine one that would have less functional impact on the people in that church or on the people of the world. I'm seriously trying to come up with anything. Hell, for $35 million you could pay Cristiano Ronaldo to smile and kick a soccer ball around Temple Square in his off season and it would do more good for the church. Congrats, I guess, on the acquisition of a notebook that will sit in a granite vault and is likely to actually be seen only by a select few. For anyone else I'm sure there'll be photos (maybe they were already public, that would be kind of funny and a little sad).
I'm like LeBron James.
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I haven't thought too much about the donation and purchase but I have to think there is more to this story than we have heard. There is either some additional intrinsic value to the manuscript or the money came with strings, or it was a lifeline to the RLDS )or whatever they are called now) or something. It just seems unlikely to me that this was a straight competitive bidding situation resulting in a price of 35 million. Possible, but unlikely, for many of the reasons stated in this thread. I am not sure if the other information, assuming it exists, would make a difference, but I think I would like to hear more about it before deciding. If it turns out that this was a straight purchase, and if the manuscript is nothing more than what it appears to be, then it does seem pretty hard to justify.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Value is subjective. Will be interesting to see how this purchase is perceived a decade or two down the road.Originally posted by creekster View PostI haven't thought too much about the donation and purchase but I have to think there is more to this story than we have heard. There is either some additional intrinsic value to the manuscript or the money came with strings, or it was a lifeline to the RLDS )or whatever they are called now) or something. It just seems unlikely to me that this was a straight competitive bidding situation resulting in a price of 35 million. Possible, but unlikely, for many of the reasons stated in this thread. I am not sure if the other information, assuming it exists, would make a difference, but I think I would like to hear more about it before deciding. If it turns out that this was a straight purchase, and if the manuscript is nothing more than what it appears to be, then it does seem pretty hard to justify."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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By then the adjusted price will likely be something like 35 gabillion dollars.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostValue is subjective. Will be interesting to see how this purchase is perceived a decade or two down the road.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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