exmo.com comes to WashPo

[wally]

Had she used her platform to praise the church should her comments be viewed with skepticism?

you bet. and they would be.

[Indy Coug]

In general, there is more of a bias against the church than there is for it. Therefore, something like this in the Washington Post is going to receive a lot less critical eye than if it were a baseless, over-the-top apologetic piece for the church.

I strongly suspect the author understood this and leveraged that fact for all it was worth.

[wally]

In general, there is more of a bias against the church than there is for it. Therefore, something like this in the Washington Post is going to receive a lot less critical eye than if it were a baseless, over-the-top apologetic piece for the church.

I strongly suspect the author understood this and leveraged that fact for all it was worth.

Somebody check and see if she is pro-Gingrich or Obama.

[LA Ute]

In general, there is more of a bias against the church than there is for it. Therefore, something like this in the Washington Post is going to receive a lot less critical eye than if it were a baseless, over-the-top apologetic piece for the church.

I strongly suspect the author understood this and leveraged that fact for all it was worth.

We're going to see a ton of this kind of commentary -- and many, many other kinds -- if Romney's campaign continues through the fall. I figure we'd better just get used to it.

[RobinFinderson]

I've noticed this thing about Mormons... they tend to separate their church's official doctrine from the dominant Mormon culture. So you have a dominant culture where a lifer who apostasizes will almost always suffer serious social repercussions, but the church doesn't officially teach the members to do this. One is the cultural reality, and the other is the doctrinal reality. I don't think the distinction really matters to most people outside the church, or rather, to the extent that it does matter, they are probably more interested in the cultural reality (where Mitt's personality was formed) rather than the official doctrine. I'm having a hard time finding anything in the article that is completely out of line with either the cultural or doctrinal standards of the church. Can someone point out the big flaws? Or are people seriously getting this worked up over style (whiny)?

[creekster]

I've noticed this thing about Mormons... they tend to separate their church's official doctrine from the dominant Mormon culture. So you have a dominant culture where a lifer who apostasizes will almost always suffer serious social repercussions, but the church doesn't officially teach the members to do this. One is the cultural reality, and the other is the doctrinal reality. I don't think the distinction really matters to most people outside the church, or rather, to the extent that it does matter, they are probably more interested in the cultural reality (where Mitt's personality was formed) rather than the official doctrine. I'm having a hard time finding anything in the article that is completely out of line with either the cultural or doctrinal standards of the church. Can someone point out the big flaws? Or are people seriously getting this worked up over style (whiny)?

Please prove it is the dominant response within the culture. It is a known but far from dominant response within my experience of living in the culture. YMMV of course, but your sweeping conclusion sounds highly speculative to me, based on my experience.

[fusnik]

UD is kinda like a modern day Jesus for the Mormon disenfranchised.

I'm starting to think that UD is the guy that gets upset that he isn't called as the EQP, Bish, Counselor, etc, craves that following and has found it through the Mormon reject group.

I don't get what this woman, or anyone that leaves, expects. You would get no different treatment if you were a catholic, JW, white person marrying a colored, etc.

Once you leave any tribal situation you should expect it to hurt.

[Indy Coug]

UD is kinda like a modern day Jesus for the Mormon disenfranchised.

What UD and/or SuperGabers are or what they are experiencing is competely besides the point. That's just clouding the merits, or lack thereof, of the Washington Post hack job.

[wally]

Please prove it is the dominant response within the culture. It is a known but far from dominant response within my experience of living in the culture. YMMV of course, but your sweeping conclusion sounds highly speculative to me, based on my experience.

Seems to me,that some sort of social science study quanitfying the number of disaffected and their experiences should is due. I hate having these discussions on anecdotal experience only.

[UtahDan]

By who? And is this your standard? Any criticism is invalid or improper if you are a believer? Wouldn't it depend on exactly what was said? Why are you deaf to the fact that her column was simply inaccurate and false, especially coming from someone who should know better? That is the basis for most of our complaints.

He said platform matters. I'm just trying to find out why he thinks so.

[Indy Coug]

Seems to me,that some sort of social science study quanitfying the number of disaffected and their experiences should is due. I hate having these discussions on anecdotal experience only.

Thankfully, social science studies are easy to conduct and are easily insulated from experimental biases.

[wally]

Thankfully, social science studies are easy to conduct and are easily insulated from experimental biases.

that's why I only called for one.

[creekster]

He said platform matters. I'm just trying to find out why he thinks so.

Of course. Just the usual unbiased search for meaning. I am undoubtedly not helping so I will leave it alone.

[Indy Coug]

that's why I only called for one.

I'm just exposing my "soft science" biases.

[UtahDan]

UD is kinda like a modern day Jesus for the Mormon disenfranchised.

Before I decide whether to accept, am I NT Jesus or OT Jesus?