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This is why I love creekster. It's a great image of him sneaking out to the barn to smoke a reefer, maybe light off some illegal firecrackers, and to read a little Brodie.Originally posted by creekster View PostI read Brodie's book the first time when I was about 16 or 17 and living in the heart of orthodox Mormon country (midvale Utah) and had no sense that it was an edgy thing to do. I don't even recall how I came to have the book available. I am not saying you are wrong, but it is not universally true.
I believe that he didn't think it was that edgy. Brodie has some crazy conclusions in there that make it harder to take the whole book seriously.
(Don't get me wrong, NMKMH is a hugely important work.)"More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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Mormon Stories released it's financials today:
http://openstoriesfoundation.org/finances/
In 2011 John Dehlin received $37,473.32 in gross salary as Executive Director of the foundation. $20,000 of that was owed to John for the previous year’s salary (2010) which was deferred by John until a board of directors was established. John also receives no benefits from the foundation, so his total net salary after insurance for 2011 was $12,541.
For 2012 John Dehlin’s salary has been set by the board of directors at $40,000.
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How do you get on this board of directors? Sounds like a sweet gig.
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Was it feeling pressure from Newt Gingrich or something?Originally posted by UtahDan View Post"They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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I never claimed that it was universally true, just that most Mormons don't get to it, especially if they have any concern (or if they've been taught to be wary) over losing their testimony by reading anti-Mormon literature.Originally posted by creekster View PostI read Brodie's book the first time when I was about 16 or 17 and living in the heart of orthodox Mormon country (midvale Utah) and had no sense that it was an edgy thing to do. I don't even recall how I came to have the book available. I am not saying you are wrong, but it is not universally true.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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Fair enough.Originally posted by pellegrino View PostI never claimed that it was universally true, just that most Mormons don't get to it, especially if they have any concern (or if they've been taught to be wary) over losing their testimony by reading anti-Mormon literature.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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It sounds like the BoD doesnt get a penny. Dehlin however has had an interesting salary arc.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostHow do you get on this board of directors? Sounds like a sweet gig.
2010: 20K
2011: 17,473K
2012: 40K
nice raise!Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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That's a good step, but calling those "financial statements" is misleading. A proper set of financial statements would include a cash flows statement, some sort of statement of equity (or net assets), and notes. At least they are disclosing John's salary.Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
It would also be nice to have an audit opinion attached to them to add credibility
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Well at least if you believe he is telling the truth and there isn't any hidden comp in company expenses you can rest assured that he is working for peanuts even after his raise. He does not appear to be living fat on people's donations.Originally posted by Moliere View PostThat's a good step, but calling those "financial statements" is misleading. A proper set of financial statements would include a cash flows statement, some sort of statement of equity (or net assets), and notes. At least they are disclosing John's salary.
It would also be nice to have an audit opinion attached to them to add credibility
Dyslexics are teople poo...
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So I should just have faith and believe John is not lyingOriginally posted by Flystripper View PostWell at least if you believe he is telling the truth and there isn't any hidden comp in company expenses you can rest assured that he is working for peanuts even after his raise. He does not appear to be living fat on people's donations.
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Is there some legal reason he needs to have a board of directors and disclose his financials? Is MormonStories organized as some not-for-profit group?Last edited by Indy Coug; 02-28-2012, 01:25 PM.
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