I learned in church today

[clackamascoug]

TIL that my bishop thinks that people who "question the Brethren should be shown the door." It won't be long now.

That tree on your garage is going haunt you for a long time isn't it.

[All-American]

TIL that my bishop thinks that people who "question the Brethren should be shown the door." It won't be long now.

Well, hold on. He just said "shown" the door. Not that you should use it-- maybe just admire it, as if to remind yourself of the Master's promise "knock and it shall be opened unto you."

[taekwondave]

It was actually six Lamanites, but Moroni was taken out after the fourth consecutive mortal combat match.

"At a meeting at Spanish Fork, Utah Co., in the winter of 1896, Brother Higginson stated in my presence that Thomas B. Marsh told him that the Prophet Joseph Smith told him (Thomas B. Marsh, he being then President of the Twelve), that he became very anxious to know something of the fate of Moroni, and in answer to prayer the Lord gave Joseph a vision, in which appeared a wild country and on the scene was Moroni after whom were six Indians in pursuit; he stopped and one of the Indians stepped forward and measured swords with him. Moroni smote him and he fell dead; another Indian advanced and contended with him; this Indian also fell by his sword; a third Indian then stepped forth and met the same fate; a fourth afterwards contended with him, but in the struggle with the fourth, Moroni, being exhausted, was killed. Thus ended the life of Moroni."


https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/book-mo...phite-prophets

"But before he died he called Fedex and had all the Nephite and Lamanite swords shipped to Europe."

[Dwight Schr-ute]

This little piece in today's lesson to the four year olds made me chuckle a bit. Maybe a little more attention to possessive pronouns when you have a rep for already heavily leaning patriarchal.



Then this made me chuckle again. I wonder if they get bunches of feedback.




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[grapevine]

People that are Eagle Scouts are more likely to go on missions, keep serving than those that Don,t. People that Don,t usually Don,t serve as much marry in temple and the like. Scouting helped church out why we are in it. I think people that are Eagle Scouts and graduate from seminary and institute are the same type of people that go on missions, Mary in temple, stay active in church anyway. Causation vs correlation.

[TexTechCoug]

High Counsel speaker gave a talk on obedience. He just recentlyreturned after serving as mission president in the New England area. He was sharing a story about a troubled elder and prefaced it by saying "You know how Polynesians have trouble with obedience..."

My wife took it well, but was a little shocked, she woke me up from my sacrament nap to ask me if I had heard what he said. Afterward, one of our neighbors came up and apologized to my wife for the speaker. My oldest daughter said the other young women were ribbing her about her disobedient streak.

[smokymountainrain]

[falafel]

High Counsel speaker gave a talk on obedience. He just recentlyreturned after serving as mission president in the New England area. He was sharing a story about a troubled elder and prefaced it by saying "You know how Polynesians have trouble with obedience..."

My wife took it well, but was a little shocked, she woke me up from my sacrament nap to ask me if I had heard what he said. Afterward, one of our neighbors came up and apologized to my wife for the speaker. My oldest daughter said the other young women were ribbing her about her disobedient streak.

So is it you or your wife that is preternaturally disobedient?

[byu71]

High Counsel speaker gave a talk on obedience. He just recentlyreturned after serving as mission president in the New England area. He was sharing a story about a troubled elder and prefaced it by saying "You know how Polynesians have trouble with obedience..."

My wife took it well, but was a little shocked, she woke me up from my sacrament nap to ask me if I had heard what he said. Afterward, one of our neighbors came up and apologized to my wife for the speaker. My oldest daughter said the other young women were ribbing her about her disobedient streak.

I have heard Polynesians anger level is reached quicker. Maybe that is another stereotype. I remember way back in the 70's BYU had an excellent d-lineman, Mekeli Iremia (sp). He said he would go to the Temple before home games, so he could control his temper during the game.

I have never heard the "obedience" stereotype before.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I have heard Polynesians anger level is reached quicker. Maybe that is another stereotype. I remember way back in the 70's BYU had an excellent d-lineman, Mekeli Iremia (sp). He said he would go to the Temple before home games, so he could control his temper during the game.

I have never heard the "obedience" stereotype before.

You should probably stop. Trust me.

[byu71]

You should probably stop. Trust me.

What is wrong in getting clarification on stereotypes. I know you know all there is to know, but I sure don't.

[Solon]

You should probably stop. Trust me.

When I coached high school football 20 years ago (in Utah), the stereotype was that polynesian players couldn't play well in the cold.

As with most racial stereotypes, the only thing consistent is the racism. (paraphrasing Patrick Miller there)

[byu71]

When I coached high school football 20 years ago (in Utah), the stereotype was that polynesian players couldn't play well in the cold.

As with most racial stereotypes, the only thing consistent is the racism. (paraphrasing Patrick Miller there)

Are any stereotypes valid anymore and I am just not speaking of racial. For instance, the "Utah Mormon" is mentioned often. Isn't that a stereotype? Is it bigotted?

[Solon]

Are any stereotypes valid anymore and I am just not speaking of racial. For instance, the "Utah Mormon" is mentioned often. Isn't that a stereotype? Is it bigotted?

So, the place I work is fostering discussion groups based on a book called Whistling Vivaldi (http://books.wwnorton.com/books/Whistling-Vivaldi/). The book talks a lot about stereotype threat, and how people in stereotyped populations (not just racial) internalize the stereotypes - to their detriment. For example, women given a math exam scored lower than a control group when they were told that "women usually have trouble on this test."

Steele remarks on so-called "positive stereotypes" (e.g., that Asians are better at math) as well, but casts them as having negative effects too.
Steele suggests that he has never encountered a group that did not have at least one negative stereotype associated with it.

In the end, the goal is to look through stereotypes and strip away the threats in order to allow people to perform to their potential.

[Bo Diddley]

When I coached high school football 20 years ago (in Utah), the stereotype was that polynesian players couldn't play well in the cold.

As with most racial stereotypes, the only thing consistent is the racism. (paraphrasing Patrick Miller there)

I remember hearing this same stereotype while I was growing up 30+ years ago regarding our own polynesian players at BYU.