I learned in church today

[Eddie]

Our Ward's would be Bishop killer is in custody, and church was back to normal today with no guards posted at the doors. However, the former bishop announced that he's moving out of state as a long term preemptive measure. Can't blame him.

In my mom's ward there was a crazy lady (literally crazy - like diagnosed paranoid schizophrenia) who was convinced that the bishop was out to get her. And that she needed to kill him before he managed to hurt her. Unfortunately this is in Utah, where the wards are small, and she lived just three houses down. The woman kept getting picked up or even arrested harassing the guy and making threats. But for whatever reason either the authorities decided it either wasn't serious enough or that she was harmless, so she would be let go.

Finally one night she went at his front door with a hatchet for a few minutes until the police could arrive to restrain her. She was home 3 days later. Four days later his home was up for sale. A week later he and his family was gone from the neighborhood. Unfortunately for the woman and her family, they have now been ostracized from the neighborhood for being the people that drove off the well liked Bishop and his family - with all kinds of thoughts as to what her family "should've" done to contain her. I'm sure there is also no small amount of concern regarding who the woman will select as the target of her paranoid delusions.

[Omaha 680]

Not only was the Elders Quorum lesson being taught by the missionaries as a last second assignment and it was a lesson on a talk from 1990, but the missionaries started the lesson by dividing up the class into groups to read different parts of the talk and then report back.

I couldn't do it today. I'm currently two floors down waiting for break the fast.

[LVAllen]

I learned the difference between how Jews interpret the Fourth Song of the Suffering Servant (the servant being Israel), with how Christians view it (the servant being Christ Himself.) The latter interpretation moves from an analogy (grow up as a tender plant) to a more literal approach (as in, the Servant was literally bruised and stricken), while the former calls for a more poetic view throughout. The latter also throws up confusing pronouns as in "It pleased Jehovah to bruise him (him being Jehovah in the flesh?)

Hey, I didn't say I learned all this from the lesson on Isaiah 53. I just learned it in church while that lesson was being taught.

[RC Vikings]

https://pathway.lds.org/

We had a lesson on the pathways program up at BYU-I. Apparently 18,000 people are enrolled in this world wide. I think it serves to both help members achieve a better life and I'm sure the percentage grads of both BYU and BYU-I who remain active and pay a full tithing are much higher than non-grads or even grads of different schools. I asked if they felt like an online grad could do has well after college in there chosen profession and they felt that they could. My next question was why are they still putting up new buildings and it got a chuckle but I had two professors come up to me after and tell me why it was so important for them to be hands on with the students.

Do you see education going more and more this route?

[Katy Lied]

We had a veteran-themed sacto meeting today. First was a lady who worked as an administrator at the VA and mixed a lot with elderly vets that way. She talked about how they are aging and getting older, and are in need of help. The cleanup speaker went way overtime, but I didn't care-- his talk was fabulous. He comes from a family of soldiers, and he has ancestors who fought in the civil war, WWI, WWII and Korean, among others. He read from the journal of his Grandfather, who was a part of the British Expeditionary forces who went to Russia to help put down the Bolshevik Revolution. The journal talks about -40 degree weather days, and how his Grandfather was able to bear his testimony to some people in Siberia. I was fascinated and wanted to ask questions about the White Russians and if their leader was as crazy as they say. About himself, he didn't say much except that he fought in Vietnam. I'd love to ask him about his experiences-- it's a little known fact that he served as an interrogator. Did he see people being tortured? Was it a psychological strain on him? He never talks about Vietnam except to say that he wasn't on the front line. He's one of the most sane people I know, not psycho like you may think.

After Sacrament meeting was over, they recognized all the veterans of all the wars, and then the vets of peacetime. (We have a ton of old people in our ward, so a few of the old timers). Then they recognized the widows and wives of vets. (Pretty eye opening when a sister stood as a vet widow, and I hadnt even known she had a husband prior to her current one.) Then they recognized the mothers of vets. Alas, they never mentioned the female vets, and we have a 93-yo sister in our ward who was a wave in WWII and was on McArthur's personal staff. She ended up standing as a wife of a vet, but she was pretty involved in her own right.

[Green Monstah]

https://pathway.lds.org/

We had a lesson on the pathways program up at BYU-I. Apparently 18,000 people are enrolled in this world wide. I think it serves to both help members achieve a better life and I'm sure the percentage grads of both BYU and BYU-I who remain active and pay a full tithing are much higher than non-grads or even grads of different schools. I asked if they felt like an online grad could do has well after college in there chosen profession and they felt that they could. My next question was why are they still putting up new buildings and it got a chuckle but I had two professors come up to me after and tell me why it was so important for them to be hands on with the students.

Do you see education going more and more this route?

Yes. I went to Y-daho for a year, and at that time, I think two online courses was mandatory. I didn't learn as much online, but this was pre-Skype days. If there were interactive online classes, I don't think I'd mind.

My socially awkward niece just enrolled in public online high school so she doesn't have to endure being around other kids. I can't decide if this is the right or wrong move for her, but I lean towards wrong.

[Omaha 680]

Second week of being primary pianist (I was called as the substitute recently and now alternate with one other person). I learned once again that I'd much rather be in Primary that normal meetings.

[CJF]

Second week of being primary pianist (I was called as the substitute recently and now alternate with one other person). I learned once again that I'd much rather be in Primary that normal meetings.

I go into Primary every month to discuss the new theme. I'm convinced Primary is the best place to be in the Church. And junior over senior.

[hostile]

I go into Primary every month to discuss the new theme. I'm convinced Primary is the best place to be in the Church. And junior over senior.

We had the primary program yesterday. Best sacrament meeting of the year.

[TripletDaddy]

Primary program: most overrated sac of the year. Cool to see your own kids, the first kid who yells into the mic is funny, the rest aren't. Starts to drag after awhile.

best one is Xmas, all you do is sing songs and then leave.

[smokymountainrain]

I go into Primary every month to discuss the new theme. I'm convinced Primary is the best place to be in the Church. And junior over senior.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

best one is Xmas, all you do is sing songs and then leave.

We only do that if Xmas is on Sunday, every other one is regular church.

[TripletDaddy]

We only do that if Xmas is on Sunday, every other one is regular church.

that is my regular church schedule, too.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

that is my regular church schedule, too.

I'm aiming for CK1. #sjbh

[ERCougar]

Second week of being primary pianist (I was called as the substitute recently and now alternate with one other person). I learned once again that I'd much rather be in Primary that normal meetings.

Yup. I love filling in there. There's still some nonsense in there, but it goes right over the kids' heads.

Yesterday, I decided for the first time in a while to give the adult Sunday school a try. I try to sit in the back, so when the discussion goes off the rail, I can discreetly read something else. Well, the SS president makes the usual request to move up, which I ignore, because i figure he'd rather have me in the back than in the foyer or home watching football and i could hear just fine. The instructor then takes over the mic and starts her lesson whispering, "I'm whispering because I want you all to move up." I can hear her just fine so I again stay put. Not being obnoxious as there are probably ten of us on the back two rows. She then says, "the Lord doesn't give up on people, and I won't either...I'll wait....brother ERC, I mean you." So I roll my eyes and move up a few rows while the rest remain where they were. She then proceeds to go off about how the Lord requires a willing heart and she wonders how willing we are to accept his salvation when we won't comply with simple requests. She even compared herself to "a hen gathering her chicks" (matt 23:37--i guess she did inspire me to search my scriptures). This whole diatribe lasted a good 5-10 minutes.

Lesson learned. Foyer for me.