I learned in church today

[clackamascoug]

I hope L. Tom Perry never visits your ward. I have it on good authority that he is gaga for his iPad.

First person verified.

Personally, I tried the ipad at church thing, and it's just weird.

[Moliere]

First person verified.

Personally, I tried the ipad at church thing, and it's just weird.

Not when over half of the members are using them. Paper scriptures are almost nonexistent in my ward.

During a lesson a while back one of the teachers was telling us we should be using paper scriptures. The main reason being that we couldn't mark our scriptures electronically. One deacon actually protested and showed that the LDS scripture app allows for not only marking, but pretty much unlimited notetaking. Flustered the teacher then mentioned that if you lose your iPad or phone you'll then have lost your markings and notes. I didn't have the heart to tell him that all that stuff is backed up by the church and actually synchronizes among all your mobile devices and your LDS online account. I also didn't want to point out that you lose all that if you misplace your paper scriptures.

[smokymountainrain]

First person verified.

Personally, I tried the ipad at church thing, and it's just weird.

At church, a phone is superior to the ipad anyway. Who wants to add even more to carry around in addition to diaper bags, toy/book bags, etc?

[creekster]

Not when over half of the members are using them. Paper scriptures are almost nonexistent in my ward.

During a lesson a while back one of the teachers was telling us we should be using paper scriptures. The main reason being that we couldn't mark our scriptures electronically. One deacon actually protested and showed that the LDS scripture app allows for not only marking, but pretty much unlimited notetaking. Flustered the teacher then mentioned that if you lose your iPad or phone you'll then have lost your markings and notes. I didn't have the heart to tell him that all that stuff is backed up by the church and actually synchronizes among all your mobile devices and your LDS online account. I also didn't want to point out that you lose all that if you misplace your paper scriptures.

But you dont need to recharge your hard copy scriptures. And they would work in perpetuity if you were, say stranded on a desert island, unlike electronic versions. Got a come back for that, smart guy?

[Jeff Lebowski]

But you dont need to recharge your hard copy scriptures. And they would work in perpetuity if you were, say stranded on a desert island, unlike electronic versions. Got a come back for that, smart guy?

Not a problem.

http://www.bluepacificsolar.com/sola...e-10-plus.html

Neener, neener.

[creekster]

Not a problem.

http://www.bluepacificsolar.com/sola...e-10-plus.html

Neener, neener.

Sure, unless you want to read on a cloudy day.

[Moliere]

But you dont need to recharge your hard copy scriptures. And they would work in perpetuity if you were, say stranded on a desert island, unlike electronic versions. Got a come back for that, smart guy?

Don't visit desert islands?

Not a problem.

http://www.bluepacificsolar.com/sola...e-10-plus.html

Neener, neener.

[clackamascoug]

Not when over half of the members are using them. Paper scriptures are almost nonexistent in my ward.

During a lesson a while back one of the teachers was telling us we should be using paper scriptures. The main reason being that we couldn't mark our scriptures electronically. One deacon actually protested and showed that the LDS scripture app allows for not only marking, but pretty much unlimited notetaking. Flustered the teacher then mentioned that if you lose your iPad or phone you'll then have lost your markings and notes. I didn't have the heart to tell him that all that stuff is backed up by the church and actually synchronizes among all your mobile devices and your LDS online account. I also didn't want to point out that you lose all that if you misplace your paper scriptures.

It's funny this came up. I took my large print quad to church last Sunday, and the thing felt like I was carrying a cement block. My wife goes home early, and I was left to walk the little more than a half mile home. 5 minutes into my 15 minute walk, the scriptures kept getting heavier and heavier, and I had to carry them like a football. I told myself that I don't care.... I'm going to be an ipad guy for the rest of my life. The worst part was my Ecco's were like clown shoes, so now I'm going to have to be a trend setter for wearing tennis shoes to church as well.

[creekster]

We recently had an event in church that caused the entire stake presidencey to be present. AT one point a speaker asked everyone to turn to a certain scripture. Putting aside the policy that such requests not be made over the pulpit, I noted that 4 of the 6 members of the SP and bishopric were using electronic versions of the scriptures.

[DrumNFeather]

We recently had an event in church that caused the entire stake presidencey to be present. AT one point a speaker asked everyone to turn to a certain scripture. Putting aside the policy that such requests not be made over the pulpit, I noted that 4 of the 6 members of the SP and bishopric were using electronic versions of the scriptures.

Well, it IS less distracting than having to turn those thin pages!

[Solon]

Not when over half of the members are using them. Paper scriptures are almost nonexistent in my ward.

During a lesson a while back one of the teachers was telling us we should be using paper scriptures. The main reason being that we couldn't mark our scriptures electronically. One deacon actually protested and showed that the LDS scripture app allows for not only marking, but pretty much unlimited notetaking. Flustered the teacher then mentioned that if you lose your iPad or phone you'll then have lost your markings and notes. I didn't have the heart to tell him that all that stuff is backed up by the church and actually synchronizes among all your mobile devices and your LDS online account. I also didn't want to point out that you lose all that if you misplace your paper scriptures.

I'm sure someone like SIEQ knows more about this than I do, but there are still some advantages to hard-copy over electronic. Although I recognize that electronic-reading is the future (if not the present), I suspect it has fundamentally changed the way we sort, process, and interact with information & texts.

Much like Virgil's Aeneid is a written work based on the genre of the originally oral compositions of Homer, e-books (and the like) are essentially new iterations and imitations of an older genre. There are some cool things being done with, say, e-books that incorporate video, graphics, etc. that is getting ready to genre-bust, but scriptures are not the ideal platform for new genres.

Just thinking in type here, but I suspect that reading scriptures electronically decontextualizes individual scriptures even more than the correlated lesson manuals require. Electronic-versions make it easier to avoid stumbling across passages that don't correspond to what the lessons want to teach.

I also fear that the overarching scripture narratives, as well as more mundane crap like the order of the various books, will become even more esoteric than they are now.

[Rickomatic]

We recently had an event in church that caused the entire stake presidency to be present. AT one point a speaker asked everyone to turn to a certain scripture. Putting aside the policy that such requests not be made over the pulpit, I noted that 4 of the 6 members of the SP and bishopric were using electronic versions of the scriptures.

It is fun to watch all three bishopric members looking up a scripture or reading from the handbook. Even in PEC, everyone has there own iPad or tablet. The best part, one bishopric member has the Church Hymn music for most of the songs

[Pheidippides]

I'm sure someone like SIEQ knows more about this than I do, but there are still some advantages to hard-copy over electronic. Although I recognize that electronic-reading is the future (if not the present), I suspect it has fundamentally changed the way we sort, process, and interact with information & texts.

Much like Virgil's Aeneid is a written work based on the genre of the originally oral compositions of Homer, e-books (and the like) are essentially new iterations and imitations of an older genre. There are some cool things being done with, say, e-books that incorporate video, graphics, etc. that is getting ready to genre-bust, but scriptures are not the ideal platform for new genres.

Just thinking in type here, but I suspect that reading scriptures electronically decontextualizes individual scriptures even more than the correlated lesson manuals require. Electronic-versions make it easier to avoid stumbling across passages that don't correspond to what the lessons want to teach.

I also fear that the overarching scripture narratives, as well as more mundane crap like the order of the various books, will become even more esoteric than they are now.

I actually find the reverse to be true. With my scriptures on something electronic, I am a couple of touches away from google, so I can go bonkers with context.

[Babs]

I actually find the reverse to be true. With my scriptures on something electronic, I am a couple of touches away from google, so I can go bonkers with context.

yes.

[thesaint258]

I actually find the reverse to be true. With my scriptures on something electronic, I am a couple of touches away from google, so I can go bonkers with context.

I do the same (when I'm not on CUF that is).