I learned in church today

[falafel]

Speaking of apostles with iPads, check this out:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsfa...knows.html.csp



The only app on his iPad?

Looks like Elder Oaks is still lying for the Lord.

$600 set of scriptures. More evidence of the extravagence of LDS leadership.

[Donuthole]

Seriously?

Yep. We even had a high counselor recently state that, while technology is nice, it can't replace the spirit found in the printed word. Whatever that means. I got a chuckle, as our bishop is young and was an early adopter of iPad-only scripture use. In fact, I remember him (our Bishop) teaching a lesson from his iPhone about 5 years ago when he was the EQP.

[falafel]

Yep. We even had a high counselor recently state that, while technology is nice, it can't replace the spirit found in the printed word. Whatever that means. I got a chuckle, as our bishop is young and was an early adopter of iPad-only scripture use. In fact, I remember him (our Bishop) teaching a lesson from his iPhone about 5 years ago when he was the EQP.

All three members of my SP are heavy iPad users and preach the iPad gospel.

[FMCoug]

Yep. We even had a high counselor recently state that, while technology is nice, it can't replace the spirit found in the printed word. Whatever that means. I got a chuckle, as our bishop is young and was an early adopter of iPad-only scripture use. In fact, I remember him (our Bishop) teaching a lesson from his iPhone about 5 years ago when he was the EQP.

This was pretty common 5-10 Years ago. If you were an early adopter of technology based scriptures (I was using WinCE device in church as early as 2000) it was interesting to say the least.

[Donuthole]

This was pretty common 5-10 Years ago. If you were an early adopter of technology based scriptures (I was using WinCE device in church as early as 2000) it was interesting to say the least.

Yeah, when I returned from my mission in 2000, my dad had a palm with the scriptures on it. I remember trying to use it and thinking it was more hassle than it was worth. It has come a long way since then.

[RC Vikings]

At least we now have tacit approval to ditch the heavy scripts for iPad-exclusivity. (FTR, i've been doing this since Christmas, but it is still frowned upon by many, for whatever reason).

Just one more thing ingrained in us that doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Paperback Writer]

Probably a different topic. But the problem we are having with YM in my ward is "electronic scriptures". The problem is that a YM can play Angry Birds on his smart phone or ipad/tablet rather than be reading the scriptures. One Bishoppric member was very upset and wanted to institute a policy of banning them for YM. I suggested this would not be a good approach unless electronic scriputres were banned for adults also and some teachers use an ipad to reference the lesson, scriputures, and other materials while teaching. I'm a printed scriputre guy myself but I thought it hypocritical to just ban them for the YM only. I used the "white shirt" example (for once this worked in my favor). How can we require the YM to wear them if we don't? The decision is pending.

But the (inspired?) thought I had in this conversation is that we as YM teachers need to step up our game. We should have acess to laptop projectors so we can teach more visually (instead of just holding up a library picture). In other words, instead of throwing up our hands and state that "we cannot compete with Angry Birds during the third hour of church", we should up our game a little and try to compete with angry birds by using more of a multi media approach to our lessons. And it begins with having access to a laptop projector. I know this tactic will fail because of correlation and non-authorized materials and this Bishopric memeber is big on those. But right now, we're not even trying to incorporate technology in YM and there is such an opportunity to do so.

[Donuthole]

Probably a different topic. But the problem we are having with YM in my ward is "electronic scriptures". The problem is that a YM can play Angry Birds on his smart phone or ipad/tablet rather than be reading the scriptures. One Bishoppric member was very upset and wanted to institute a policy of banning them for YM. I suggested this would not be a good approach unless electronic scriputres were banned for adults also and some teachers use an ipad to reference the lesson, scriputures, and other materials while teaching. I'm a printed scriputre guy myself but I thought it hypocritical to just ban them for the YM only. I used the "white shirt" example (for once this worked in my favor). How can we require the YM to wear them if we don't? The decision is pending.

But the (inspired?) thought I had in this conversation is that we as YM teachers need to step up our game. We should have acess to laptop projectors so we can teach more visually (instead of just holding up a library picture). In other words, instead of throwing up our hands and state that "we cannot compete with Angry Birds during the third hour of church", we should up our game a little and try to compete with angry birds by using more of a multi media approach to our lessons. And it begins with having access to a laptop projector. I know this tactic will fail because of correlation and non-authorized materials and this Bishopric memeber is big on those. But right now, we're not even trying to incorporate technology in YM and there is such an opportunity to do so.

My bishop has a little projector that hooks right to an iPad. He lets me borrow it when I need it for lessons.

[Indy Coug]

iPads are used openly by the stake presidency, bishopric, etc. and can be found for reading scriptures in sacrament talks, used as manuals for Sunday School, Priesthood, etc.

I'm not sure what backwater areas you guys are getting resistance over iPad or other electronic device usage in church, but you won't find it where I am.

[Scorcho]

I'm not sure what backwater areas you guys are getting resistance over iPad or other electronic device usage in church, but you won't find it where I am.

I think some of it stems from missionaries not being able to take electronic devices on their missions. Bishops want the youth to get used to using the books. I can see the benefit of that.

[Moliere]

I still read from a handwritten bible since I think the spirit is stronger when someone uses a pen as opposed to a printing press.

[Katy Lied]

In other words, instead of throwing up our hands and state that "we cannot compete with Angry Birds during the third hour of church", we should up our game a little and try to compete with angry birds by using more of a multi media approach to our lessons. .

What's wrong with "if I see you playing angry birds in class, I'll kick your teeth in?"

Do you let them bring in copies of Maxim and peruse them during class?

[wuapinmon]

I almost forgot about this one. During the business portion of the meeting, the bishop brought the seminary graduates up to the front to recognize them. He pointed out that he and his wife told their kids that seminary graduation was more important to them than graduation from high school.

[CJF]

I learned that when the person giving the open or closing prayer cries throughout the prayer I first become uncomfortable. I also learned than being uncomfortable during a prayer makes me chuckle after about 2 minutes.

More uncomfortable when it is a man. Sheesh. This ward is a bunch of ninnies.

[DU Ute]

I was learning from a retired doctor in testimony meeting about how all our country's health problems can be traced back to Vitamin D deficiency due to overzealous use of sunscreen, but a member of the bishopric cut him off before he could finish. What are they trying to hide from us!?!?!? :foilhat: