I learned in church today

[TripletDaddy]

I can relate to his point of view, but not his writing style.

I really enjoyed reading it. Not sure i follow your comment about the authors writing style. How would you categorize that style?

[Jeff Lebowski]

I really enjoyed reading it. Not sure i follow your comment about the authors writing style. How would you categorize that style?

Amen. That was a great essay. And beautifully written.

[Bo Diddley]

I really enjoyed reading it. Not sure i follow your comment about the authors writing style. How would you categorize that style?

Amen. That was a great essay. And beautifully written.

I think our different reactions to his essay highlight my ADD when it comes to reading. For me, he took too long to make his point, and purposefully took the time to paint the picture. I prefer a more straight forward approach. Perhaps if I would have been listening to him talk I might have had a different reaction.

[imanihonjin]

Found this today in my Facebook feed:

https://medium.com/@DonaMajicShow/fa...l-9eae6c04a38b

Closely parallels my thoughts on my continued journey within the church.

Thank you for posting. I really enjoyed this.

[swampfrog]

I think our different reactions to his essay highlight my ADD when it comes to reading. For me, he took too long to make his point, and purposefully took the time to paint the picture. I prefer a more straight forward approach. Perhaps if I would have been listening to him talk I might have had a different reaction.

I thought that considering the amount of ground that was covered, it was quite succinct. It's also possible that I respond to it favorably because of how closely it corresponds to my own thoughts. It was like looking into my own head from someone else's perspective.

[swampfrog]

And there it is:

https://www.lds.org/pages/church-handbook-changes?cid=HP_WE_11-11-2015_dPFD_fCNWS_xLIDyL1-A_&lang=eng

[Surfah]

And there it is:

https://www.lds.org/pages/church-han...L1-A_&lang=eng

You guys all failed this test of faith. Ha.

[clackamascoug]

Not a 180, but a solid 90* turn. I like it.

[lambdacoug]

And there it is:

https://www.lds.org/pages/church-han...L1-A_&lang=eng

My favorite part is the grandfathering of kids already baptized that are living in such a den of sin that would now prohibit their baptism. They can even continue receiving ordinances. Imagine two kids in the same situation, both age 8, one got baptized before the new policy change, the other one was on vacation and so couldn't get baptized then, and now he/she can't*. So awesome.




* - without special permission, as if that makes it better

[BlueK]

My favorite part is the grandfathering of kids already baptized that are living in such a den of sin that would now prohibit their baptism. They can even continue receiving ordinances. Imagine two kids in the same situation, both age 8, one got baptized before the new policy change, the other one was on vacation and so couldn't get baptized then, and now he/she can't*. So awesome.




* - without special permission, as if that makes it better

with that they pretty much reduced it down to something that will almost never be used.

[swampfrog]

My favorite part is the grandfathering of kids already baptized that are living in such a den of sin that would now prohibit their baptism. They can even continue receiving ordinances. Imagine two kids in the same situation, both age 8, one got baptized before the new policy change, the other one was on vacation and so couldn't get baptized then, and now he/she can't*. So awesome.




* - without special permission, as if that makes it better

They patched the glaring hole in the policy. The rest of the PR (some of which makes me a little sick to the stomach, just own it as a mistake--this is a correction, not a clarification) implies that exceptions to handbook policy can be made at the local level. I don't see how the situation you describes could be resolved any other way (special permission). Generally, children who primarily reside in a home where the primary care-givers are a same-sex couple are going to have continual cognitive dissonance as members. It's not likely all local leaders world-wide are going to grasp the significance of that and always handle a baptism request with the nuance and understanding needed.

[lambdacoug]

They patched the glaring hole in the policy. The rest of the PR (some of which makes me a little sick to the stomach, just own it as a mistake--this is a correction, not a clarification) implies that exceptions to handbook policy can be made at the local level. I don't see how the situation you describes could be resolved any other way (special permission). Generally, children who primarily reside in a home where the primary care-givers are a same-sex couple are going to have continual cognitive dissonance as members. It's not likely all local leaders world-wide are going to grasp the significance of that and always handle a baptism request with the nuance and understanding needed.

I fail to see how that is any different than the continual cognitive dissonance other members feel over things. You are right though, it isn't likely leaders world-wide will grasp the significance of that. The question is whether they err on the side of strict adherence to the policy, or make a more nuanced decision. There is no way it will be consistent, or even predictable. There is a way to resolve it without special permission, simply own up and say "We messed up, we strongly discourage the practice of same sex marriage, but we are happy to welcome all children into the fold no matter the circumstances their parents put them into."

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I learned in church today

Mormon Newsroom has an OpEd page now. Letter's to the Editor, coming soon. Further clarification on the other clarifications.

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/commentary-understanding-the-handbook

[falafel]

Said in a young women's lesion with regard to sexual purity: "be a temple, not a visitors center."

[BigPiney]

Said in a young women's lesion with regard to sexual purity: "be a temple, not a visitors center."

I like it