We watched Birdman tonight. Didn't work for me at all. The one-continuous-shot thing was cool and the acting was good, but I found the plot to be random and incoherent and ultimately boring. Too artsy fartsy and pretentious for my tastes. I would put it above American Sniper but below all the other BP nominees I have seen (still waiting to see Boyhood and Selma).
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I was quite excited when both this and the Turing movie came out... Two of the great minds of our time. I enjoyed them both even though the Turing movie wasn't all that accurate.Originally posted by UVACoug View PostI though the movie was boring as hell, but Redmayne did well enough to deserve a nomination."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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Saw Birdman and felt like a philistine because I didn't like it. Then I read JL's review and that's exactly how I felt. You can admire performances and not like the movie. I remember seeing Agnes of God and thinking that Jane Fonda was terrific and hating the movie.
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Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostSaw Birdman and felt like a philistine because I didn't like it. Then I read JL's review and that's exactly how I felt. You can admire performances and not like the movie. I remember seeing Agnes of God and thinking that Jane Fonda was terrific and hating the movie.
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Formula for winning (or being nominated for an) academy award : Make a movie about movie making. Or introduce new techniques no matter how inconsequential*. As evidence:
About a Boy
Birdman
The Artist
Hugo
Purple Rose of Cairo
Cinema Paradiso
Ed Wood
No one ever lost money overestimating Hollywood's love affair with itself.
*Unless the new techniques are for special effects. Then no one cares.
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Ha! I said the exact same thing to my wife last night and listed most of those same movies.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostFormula for winning (or being nominated for an) academy award : Make a movie about movie making. Or introduce new techniques no matter how inconsequential*. As evidence:
About a Boy
Birdman
The Artist
Hugo
Purple Rose of Cairo
Cinema Paradiso
Ed Wood
No one ever lost money overestimating Hollywood's love affair with itself.
*Unless the new techniques are for special effects. Then no one cares.
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I'd throw Boyhood in there too. There's an attempt at profundity, but it mostly seemed like a movie-making gimmick in search of a movie.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostFormula for winning (or being nominated for an) academy award : Make a movie about movie making. Or introduce new techniques no matter how inconsequential*. As evidence:
About a Boy
Birdman
The Artist
Hugo
Purple Rose of Cairo
Cinema Paradiso
Ed Wood
No one ever lost money overestimating Hollywood's love affair with itself.
*Unless the new techniques are for special effects. Then no one cares.
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I think she actually meant Boyhood; About a Boy doesn't really fit on that list.Originally posted by woot View PostI'd throw Boyhood in there too. There's an attempt at profundity, but it mostly seemed like a movie-making gimmick in search of a movie."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Ah that makes sense. I haven't seen About a Boy in a while and figured I'd missed something.Originally posted by Commando View PostI think she actually meant Boyhood; About a Boy doesn't really fit on that list.
I do think, however, that the Oscars being biased toward movies that introduce new techniques is neither unexpected nor particularly unfortunate. Although it has become the mainstream barometer for success, it's still an industry thing, so a movie that innovates probably should be looked at more favorably than one that merely combines the usual tropes in an especially satisfying way. Alternatives like the MTV movie awards and the People's Choice awards might have filled the "just pick the best mainstream movie" niche, but that turns out to be really difficult.
There have really only been a few years when the Oscar didn't go to what turned out to be the best movie of that year, despite the academy's biases. This year I don't think any movie was particularly great, so I don't have a problem giving it to a movie that innovates.
Regarding Birdman, I'm a big fan of long takes. Contact has a long tracking shot that I remember being impressed by, even though it was just dialog. Children of Men has some very intense ones, and the one in True Detective was extremely successful at ratcheting up the tension and putting you right there in the middle of everything. Even Scrubs had a single-shot cold open one time that gives you a better sense of the hospital's geography. Birdman is a cool experiment to see what happens when you do that for a whole movie. What we learned is that it's exhausting and kind of annoying. Well, now we know.
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I love that extended fighting scene in 'The Children of Men'. Very powerful.Originally posted by woot View PostAh that makes sense. I haven't seen About a Boy in a while and figured I'd missed something.
I do think, however, that the Oscars being biased toward movies that introduce new techniques is neither unexpected nor particularly unfortunate. Although it has become the mainstream barometer for success, it's still an industry thing, so a movie that innovates probably should be looked at more favorably than one that merely combines the usual tropes in an especially satisfying way. Alternatives like the MTV movie awards and the People's Choice awards might have filled the "just pick the best mainstream movie" niche, but that turns out to be really difficult.
There have really only been a few years when the Oscar didn't go to what turned out to be the best movie of that year, despite the academy's biases. This year I don't think any movie was particularly great, so I don't have a problem giving it to a movie that innovates.
Regarding Birdman, I'm a big fan of long takes. Contact has a long tracking shot that I remember being impressed by, even though it was just dialog. Children of Men has some very intense ones, and the one in True Detective was extremely successful at ratcheting up the tension and putting you right there in the middle of everything. Even Scrubs had a single-shot cold open one time that gives you a better sense of the hospital's geography. Birdman is a cool experiment to see what happens when you do that for a whole movie. What we learned is that it's exhausting and kind of annoying. Well, now we know.
This was the first year that I saw most of the films that were up for best picture. I said it before; I really liked 'Birdman' and 'Boyhood'. I'll admit that a lot of my admiration is based on the ambition of those films, especially Boyhood. But I still liked them."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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Art will always be a subjective experience. Some years I agree with them and some I don't.Originally posted by woot View PostAh that makes sense. I haven't seen About a Boy in a while and figured I'd missed something.
I do think, however, that the Oscars being biased toward movies that introduce new techniques is neither unexpected nor particularly unfortunate. Although it has become the mainstream barometer for success, it's still an industry thing, so a movie that innovates probably should be looked at more favorably than one that merely combines the usual tropes in an especially satisfying way. Alternatives like the MTV movie awards and the People's Choice awards might have filled the "just pick the best mainstream movie" niche, but that turns out to be really difficult.
There have really only been a few years when the Oscar didn't go to what turned out to be the best movie of that year, despite the academy's biases. This year I don't think any movie was particularly great, so I don't have a problem giving it to a movie that innovates.
Regarding Birdman, I'm a big fan of long takes. Contact has a long tracking shot that I remember being impressed by, even though it was just dialog. Children of Men has some very intense ones, and the one in True Detective was extremely successful at ratcheting up the tension and putting you right there in the middle of everything. Even Scrubs had a single-shot cold open one time that gives you a better sense of the hospital's geography. Birdman is a cool experiment to see what happens when you do that for a whole movie. What we learned is that it's exhausting and kind of annoying. Well, now we know."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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IMO, Argo needs to be at the top of this list.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostFormula for winning (or being nominated for an) academy award : Make a movie about movie making. Or introduce new techniques no matter how inconsequential*. As evidence:
About a Boy
Birdman
The Artist
Hugo
Purple Rose of Cairo
Cinema Paradiso
Ed Wood
No one ever lost money overestimating Hollywood's love affair with itself.
*Unless the new techniques are for special effects. Then no one cares.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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A group of gritty film-makers from Hollywood engage in a secret operation to free US hostages, at great peril to their own lives.Originally posted by Commando View PostWhy?"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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