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Somewhat related tangent. As a single undergrad, in anatomy lab (professor Vandersomethin's class), I learned from the TA "that from behind, also sometimes called doggy style, is often the best way to make to love when your wife is pregnant."
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I have no problem with the position. It was the sudden and forceful penetration without her expecting it... But apparently that "surprise attack" from behind is pretty normal, per Wuap.Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostSomewhat related tangent. As a single undergrad, in anatomy lab (professor Vandersomethin's class), I learned from the TA "that from behind, also sometimes called doggy style, is often the best way to make to love when your wife is pregnant."What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
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You're missing the point that it was unexpected but enjoyed. As was their renewed passion thereafter in the public meeting, and car antics. Walt's aggression was a welcomed treat for a lady who acted like she couldn't get enough of the new Walt. The bed scene was the first moment of Walt taking command of his life, and his wife going along for the ride.
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Hey now, that's not really fair, and kind of personal. When was the last time you watched the scene? I do not see her as surprised at all. To be really clinical, I think the surprise was feeling the erection of her cancer-stricken husband. She even says, "Walt, is that you?" Before that they kissed each other, and she even put her hand on the back of his head to kiss him more closely/caress him.Originally posted by marsupial View PostI have no problem with the position. It was the sudden and forceful penetration without her expecting it... But apparently that "surprise attack" from behind is pretty normal, per Wuap."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I don't remember anything in her face that would indicate mutual pleasure, but it has been a long time since I have seen that episode.Originally posted by clackamascoug View PostYou're missing the point that it was unexpected but enjoyed. As was their renewed passion thereafter in the public meeting, and car antics. Walt's aggression was a welcomed treat for a lady who acted like she couldn't get enough of the new Walt.What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
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I wondered during that scene if they weren't doing something that was new for both of them and this really was a new and more aggressive Walter.
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I do recall all of that now. I didn't remember thinking of it as rape; though obviously from my forgetfulness, it didn't impact me too much one way or the other. However, Anna Gunn seems to agree more with marsupial.Originally posted by clackamascoug View PostYou're missing the point that it was unexpected but enjoyed. As was their renewed passion thereafter in the public meeting, and car antics. Walt's aggression was a welcomed treat for a lady who acted like she couldn't get enough of the new Walt. The bed scene was the first moment of Walt taking command of his life, and his wife going along for the ride.
is this the scene everyone is referencing?
[YOUTUBE]WcBDWjVhg-g&has_verified=1[/YOUTUBE]Last edited by Art Vandelay; 07-16-2012, 01:03 PM.
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No, that's about the scene in the kitchen when he knocks her into the fridge (S2:E1). I agree, that one was not consensual at all, and would've been rape had she not stopped him. Season 1 Episode 2 actually begins with the orgasm of the end of episode 1, and we see him finish, roll over and start coughing. She asks, "Are you ok?"Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostI do recall all of that now. I didn't remember thinking of it as rape; though obviously from my forgetfulness, it didn't impact me too much one way or the other. However, Anna Gunn seems to agree more with marsupial."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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After hearing Clack's description of the honeymoon phase aftermath, and what you are describing I vaguley recall the scene. I took it to be consensual and something Skyler enjoyed. However, I reserve the right to change my opinion 180 degrees (again) upon seeing video evidence.Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostNo, that's about the scene in the kitchen when he knocks her into the fridge (S2:E1). I agree, that one was not consensual at all, and would've been rape had she not stopped him. Season 1 Episode 2 actually begins with the orgasm of the end of episode 1, and we see him finish, roll over and start coughing. She asks, "Are you ok?"
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If you have Netflix, go watch the end of S1:E1 and the beginning of S1:E2."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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No, I had forgotten about that scene. Gosh, Walt is an ass.Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostI do recall all of that now. I didn't remember thinking of it as rape; though obviously from my forgetfulness, it didn't impact me too much one way or the other. However, Anna Gunn seems to agree more with marsupial.
is this the scene everyone is referencing?
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The scene I am thinking about is when they are in bed. Granted, I haven't seen it in a long time, but my memory tells me that he pretty much just gives it to her with little or no warning. She seems to allow it, probably because she was too surprised to stop it and because part of her was just grateful he was healthy enough to be interested in it again.
Certainly, a quickie can be fun now and again, but given the stress in their marriage, I think a little loving foreplay would have been good for them.What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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I just watched the scene on Netflix, I'm going to have to agree with wuap and Clack. Skyler was surprised, but not in a sexual assault-type way. But, in a who is this, agressive, long-forgotten he-really-wants-me, and I want him type reaction. At least that is how i perceive it.Originally posted by marsupial View PostNo, I had forgotten about that scene. Gosh, Walt is an ass.
The scene I am thinking about is when they are in bed. Granted, I haven't seen it in a long time, but my memory tells me that he pretty much just gives it to her with little or no warning. She seems to allow it, probably because she was too surprised to stop it and because part of her was just grateful he was healthy enough to be interested in it again.
Certainly, a quickie can be fun now and again, but given the stress in their marriage, I think a little loving foreplay would have been good for them.Last edited by Art Vandelay; 07-16-2012, 01:48 PM.
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Well, I'll have to rewatch it, too. It could be that I am confusing the aggression of the refrigerator scene with that one in my mind.Originally posted by Art Vandelay View PostI just watched the scene on Netflix, I'm going to have to agree with wuap and Clack. Skyler was surprised, but not in a sexual assault-type way. But, in a who is this, agressive, long-forgotten he-really-wants-me, and I want him type reaction. At least that is how i perceive it.What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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I haven't watched that episode in a long time, but my memory is that it was a "pleasantly surprised" moment for Skyler. A much different emotion than the refrigerator scene.Originally posted by marsupial View PostWell, I'll have to rewatch it, too. It could be that I am confusing the aggression of the refrigerator scene with that one in my mind.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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Skyler started off WAY annoying for me. As in "I hope she gets whacked" annoying. She has since come around for me since after her freakout and subsequent chill-out. Before she was just a straight bitch ALL THE TIME. I quite like her now.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostSkyler is one of the most annoying characters on television for me. I don't know if they mean for her to be that way, but there is nothing likable about her. There is nothing about her with which one empathizes. I understand that her world is upside down, but she seems like she has been pissed off every moment of this series and all of it has to do with either Walter not obeying her or her losing control over Walter."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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