Fire Ty

[Northwestcoug]

I think one of the big problems here is that yes, Ty is a sacrificial lamb for Sitake, but Ty is better suited as the SL for Tom Holmoe. I don't for a minute believe that Kalani chose Ty Detmer. It was more like, "Kalani, we will let you be the HC if Ty Detmer is your OC". Now I don't believe Sitake is blameless, but the guy who should be sweating IMO is Tom Holmoe. This was a calculated risk to bring in Ty, I understand, but I would hope that we would allow the HC to chose who his assistants are. The OC and the HC, especially at BYU need to be on the same page. I go back to the presser the staff held two years ago. Ty was up there mentioning the names of walk-ons, an NCAA violation. Right then and there, Kalani had to be pissing in his pants. Ty is smart, and I think could eventually become a good OC, but he was WAAAAAY too green for this. He was not the right hire to begin with...that lies on the shoulders of Tom Holmoe.

I think this is the first time I've read this take, that Ty was Holmoe's decision and he essentially forced it on Sitake. Maybe it's been posted before; I'm less involved in this thread. It's interesting. Does anyone else here feel the same way?

[Flystripper]

I think Sitake was down with it but it was Holmoe’s decision.


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[LiveCoug]

I'll take hoops in AAC over WCC any day.

The whole "P6" thing means nothing. They are the best G5 conference, but they are no where near P5 in terms of prestige, money or exposure. Just calling yourself P6 doesn't do anything in the big picture of college football. No thanks.

[originalsocal]

I think Sitake was down with it but it was Holmoe’s decision.


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There certainly is precedent for this. I recall Crowton was asked to retain all the assistant left behind by LE and Robert Anae was hired as the OC prior to Bronco being installed as the HC.

[SteelBlue]

The whole "P6" thing means nothing. They are the best G5 conference, but they are no where near P5 in terms of prestige, money or exposure. Just calling yourself P6 doesn't do anything in the big picture of college football. No thanks.

It doesn't, but it's essentially our current strategy but without the easier access to a NY bowl game (not that I harbor any real illusions about that, I promise) and without friends. I'm sure we make more tv money with independence but that doesn't seem to have made much of a functional difference to the program over the past 5 years.

[Maximus]

New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?

[Surfah]

New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?

Eff that. I'd rather have ARod who is going to be the next OC anyway.

[Mormon Red Death]

New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?

Sweet this means there will be two fanbases who can greet each other by saying "Fire Ludwig!"

[Applejack]

Sweet this means there will be two fanbases who can greet each other by saying "Fire Ludwig!"

Let's see...Aaron Roderick, Norm Chow, Andy Ludwig. I get trying to steal some of Kyle's defensive fairy dust, but trying to emulate Utah's offense over the years? Knock yourselves out.

[Sizzle]

New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?

No.

[jay santos]

Val Hale is the most annoying person in the history of my BYU sports fandom. He went on 960 last night and used the time to defend Crowton. Crowton's biggest fault was that he had success at first and then when the win total dropped a little, the vultures came. Bronco started out winning only "two or three games" his first year and then "6-6 or something" and people got used to low expecations, and he was fine.

So you don't have to look it up, Bronco started 6-6 and then went 43-9 over the next four seasons. Crowton had three losing seasons in a row, at a time when we hadn't had any losing seasons for the prior 30 years.

[Sullyute]

Sweet this means there will be two fanbases who can greet each other by saying "Fire Ludwig!"

Lol! Please let this happen

[BigPiney]

Val Hale is the most annoying person in the history of my BYU sports fandom. He went on 960 last night and used the time to defend Crowton. Crowton's biggest fault was that he had success at first and then when the win total dropped a little, the vultures came. Bronco started out winning only "two or three games" his first year and then "6-6 or something" and people got used to low expecations, and he was fine.

So you don't have to look it up, Bronco started 6-6 and then went 43-9 over the next four seasons. Crowton had three losing seasons in a row, at a time when we hadn't had any losing seasons for the prior 30 years.

He and Merril Bateman need to be kicked in the nuts.

[Topper]

New rumor on Twitter is Andy Ludwig. Thoughts?

It's A'Rod. KS needs a quick fix with somebody who knows the personnel. Otherwise, he's gonzo after next year, which he might be any way.

[Topper]

He and Merril Bateman need to be kicked in the nuts.

I volunteer and designate cowboy to do the honors.