Help Wanted: Who replaces Bronco?

[jay santos]

I'm having a really sick feeling like the church is going to do something stupid because they loved how awesome Ken N was in Meet the Mormons and force TH to hire him.

[scottie]

It's the only thing he has ever done. He got fired at UNLV for not being willilng to try something else.

Wikipedia lists his time at UNLV as the tight ends/special teams coach.

[Blueintheface]

Running that offense is a shibboleth and we are the ephraimites in that shibboleth.

I was just thinking the same thing...said no one ever following that statement.

[Blueintheface]

I'm having a really sick feeling like the church is going to do something stupid because they loved how awesome Ken N was in Meet the Mormons and force TH to hire him.

In the immortal words of Canada's greatest export: That's impossible!

[YOhio]

Grabbed Sagarin's predictor model (pretty close to well implemented pure MOV model). Last five year's at Navy average: 58.0. No sub 80 seasons. Pretty consistently in 50-60 with one season in the 40s.

Can you bring in data from the santos power rating?

[Eddie]

We won't win with that stupid offense because we haven't recruited for it.

I think you're missing the point.

I'm not the coach. Get a coach who is good. Let him coach the team to win. He doesn't need dumbass fans from the sidelines telling him what system to run or what plays to call. Hire a good coach. Let him do his thing.

If we're debating offenses and personnel, then that is different and I tend to agree. Certain schemes require certain players. BYU doesn't seem to have the personnel in place to run the triple option.

But that's not my problem. I'm saying that scheme and personnel is the coaches problem. He can run whatever the hell he wants to, I don't care. As long as he wins.

I think if you took the time to think about it, all things being equal, you would agree that you are more interested in winning than scheme.

If I'm wrong - and you only want to win if you can do it running certain schemes, then I don't know how to help you.

[Topper]

If we could somehow land Whittingham I may reconsider my faith...Yeah yeah sign seekers or he who seeketh after a sign...yup that's me!

Landing Whit would be a sign that Administration loves its fans and athletics.

[Katy Lied]

All you wussies have your knickers in a knot. He's just a football coach, not the second coming of Christ. He will hire the best assistants available, and his overriding concern will be to win. (Not to implement the triple option!) He will either win, or he will get fired. All your pissing and moaning has turned into a wake mourning the Bronco regime. Why can't change be good? Maybe we'll get a better staff. Maybe not, but you're all sounding like a bunch of old women. 13 years is a long time. Let's move on.

[Maximus]

I think you're missing the point.

I'm not the coach. Get a coach who is good. Let him coach the team to win. He doesn't need dumbass fans from the sidelines telling him what system to run or what plays to call. Hire a good coach. Let him do his thing.

If we're debating offenses and personnel, then that is different and I tend to agree. Certain schemes require certain players. BYU doesn't seem to have the personnel in place to run the triple option.

But that's not my problem. I'm saying that scheme and personnel is the coaches problem. He can run whatever the hell he wants to, I don't care. As long as he wins.

I think if you took the time to think about it, all things being equal, you would agree that you are more interested in winning than scheme.

If I'm wrong - and you only want to win if you can do it running certain schemes, then I don't know how to help you.

If we want to be a midlevel g5 team then the triple option is an option.

Our scheme is fine. Going to a scheme no one runs for a reason is automatically a bad idea. We just have 50 years of history to prove it. But in the fantasitcal world where we could hypothetically win using a scheme that we have never run and none of our recruiting base is interested in or is fit for, lets try it for 5 years and kill the program and then start back over with the scheme that worked before.

[creekster]

All you wussies have your knickers in a knot. He's just a football coach, not the second coming of Christ. He will hire the best assistants available, and his overriding concern will be to win. (Not to implement the triple option!) He will either win, or he will get fired. All your pissing and moaning has turned into a wake mourning the Bronco regime. Why can't change be good? Maybe we'll get a better staff. Maybe not, but you're all sounding like a bunch of old women. 13 years is a long time. Let's move on.

You're confusing what is happening here with mourning the Bronco regime. Change might be good. But, as with any change, there are certain probabilities involved that can be hard to ignore. I am looking forward eagerly but the probability of a good season next year, given our schedule, is not nearly as high as I would like it to be. But, in general, I do agree that it is just sports, after all. It's not like any of us are crazy enough to do something like have season tickets to both Utah and BYU, right? We should just keep it real.

[The_Douger]

You're confusing what is happening here with mourning the Bronco regime. Change might be good. But, as with any change, there are certain probabilities involved that can be hard to ignore. I am looking forward eagerly but the probability of a good season next year, given our schedule, is not nearly as high as I would like it to be. But, in general, I do agree that it is just sports, after all. It's not like any of us are crazy enough to do something like have season tickets to both Utah and BYU, right? We should just keep it real.

I just don't trust the higher ups to pay for or make the best decision. The things they like aren't necessarily the things that make a great program.

[Flystripper]

All you wussies have your knickers in a knot. He's just a football coach, not the second coming of Christ. He will hire the best assistants available, and his overriding concern will be to win. (Not to implement the triple option!) He will either win, or he will get fired. All your pissing and moaning has turned into a wake mourning the Bronco regime. Why can't change be good? Maybe we'll get a better staff. Maybe not, but you're all sounding like a bunch of old women. 13 years is a long time. Let's move on.

Its not about Bronco worship. It is about realizing that there are likely no good options to replace him. It is about looking at the program faced with its most difficult position in terms of schedule coupled with a razor margin of error that is independence. Its about looking at this program and realizing that a coaching change right now can send our program into outer darkness. Its about loving BYU so much it hurts and its about knowing that you are about to get crushed.

So you can call me a 13 year old wimp or woman...whatever. To me it just seems like you don't either love the program like I do, or you don't fully appreciate the problem that we face. So while you are telling me to grow up, I am telling you to WAKE UP!

[creekster]

I just don't trust the higher ups to pay for or make the best decision. The things they like aren't necessarily the things that make a great program.

Maybe, maybe not. If that is true, however, then the program is doomed to a slow decline into Bolivia. I prefer to think that in addition to some of the other factors to which you allude, the admin also wants to win.

[creekster]

Its not about Bronco worship. It is about realizing that there are likely no good options to replace him. It is about looking at the program faced with its most difficult position in terms of schedule coupled with a razor margin of error that is independence. Its about looking at this program and realizing that a coaching change right now can send our program into outer darkness. Its about loving BYU so much it hurts and its about knowing that you are about to get crushed.

So you can call me a 13 year old wimp or woman...whatever. To me it just seems like you don't either love the program like I do, or you don't fully appreciate the problem that we face. So while you are telling me to grow up, I am telling you to WAKE UP!

Good post. Although if it turns out your knickers ARE in a knot, you should definitely take her advice and un-tie them.

[I.J. Reilly]

I didn't even need all of this analysis to know I don't want Ken N anywhere near the BYu program. However, from a rational perspective, BYU is in BIG trouble. We all need to be praying that we luck out with an unproven HC like we did with Bronco and LaVell. I have a really really bad feeling about all of this.

Anderson has been my realistic choice from the beginning. I think that he has been a winner at every level he's been at and has succeeded without the hand-holding (cough*Sitake*cough) from someone else. Along with that, his recruiting skills are fantastic and would be very valuable in his position as HC.

That being said, if we can pry Whit away from Utah, go for it. But if the realistic choices are KenN, Sitake and Anderson, I would choose Anderson every time.