2015 College Football Season

[MartyFunkhouser]

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[DrumNFeather]

It's always nice to see BYU fans and Funk come together to agree about how terrible the Utes are. #BuildingBridges

[The_Douger]

Not everyone is USC, not everyone has the national championship or failed season mentality. Let's be honest, there are a handful of teams that are actually teams that are legit national title contenders. Utah and BYU are not among these teams. A season isn't over if you are out of the national championship race for the large majority of schools. Conference championships mean something. Utah is still very much in the Pac-12 race. The season is far from over. Playoffs were never happening for this Ute team.

The problem with BYU is that once they lose that first game, they don't have conference championship to play for.

What did all those conference championships BYU won in the WAC and MWC get BYU?

[Jeff Lebowski]

It's always nice to see BYU fans and Funk come together to agree about how terrible the Utes are. #BuildingBridges

Funk is all about spreading misery.

[TripletDaddy]

Not everyone is USC, not everyone has the national championship or failed season mentality. Let's be honest, there are a handful of teams that are actually teams that are legit national title contenders. Utah and BYU are not among these teams. A season isn't over if you are out of the national championship race for the large majority of schools. Conference championships mean something. Utah is still very much in the Pac-12 race. The season is far from over. Playoffs were never happening for this Ute team.

The problem with BYU is that once they lose that first game, they don't have conference championship to play for.

I understand the sentiment but you are promoting a dying mentality. The BCS era was the beginning of the end for the prestige of a conference championship or a bowl game invite. The playoffs is another step further down that line. Im not saying it is totally devoid of meaning, but how proud are Baylor and TCU of their conference championship from last year? Who won the ACC or the Big 10 the year Auburn won the national championship? who cares, really? It doesn't matter that much. My original point was simply to point out that the relative value differential between what a P5 team is playing for and what an independent is playing for (notre dame included) once they are out of the playoff race is pretty nominal these days. it may be better to play for a conference championship than not, but not that much better anymore. 20 years ago, absolutely. Today, not so much.

I agree with everything you said about only a handful of teams ever really being in contention on an annual basis. that is why i originally said that the "access to the playoffs" argument against independence was always dumb.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

good point. in that case, alabama should be ranked higher than notre dame.....

This isn't basketball, wins still count more than "quality" losses when only four teams make the playoffs. Michigan State has a better win than anything Notre Dame has done, and they're also undefeated, unlike Notre Dame.

The point is more arguable if we're discussing Alabama. Wins against Temple and Navy don't count for much.

[DrumNFeather]

I understand the sentiment but you are promoting a dying mentality. The BCS era was the beginning of the end for the prestige of a conference championship or a bowl game invite. The playoffs is another step further down that line. Im not saying it is totally devoid of meaning, but how proud are Baylor and TCU of their conference championship from last year? Who won the ACC or the Big 10 the year Auburn won the national championship? who cares, really? It doesn't matter that much. My original point was simply to point out that the relative value differential between what a P5 team is playing for and what an independent is playing for (notre dame included) once they are out of the playoff race is pretty nominal these days. it may be better to play for a conference championship than not, but not that much better anymore. 20 years ago, absolutely. Today, not so much.

I agree with everything you said about only a handful of teams ever really being in contention on an annual basis. that is why i originally said that the "access to the playoffs" argument against independence was always dumb.

Nobody likes to share.

[Green Monstah]

My only objection to a 16 team playoff is that it may result in a 1-game reduction of the regular season. If we still get 12 regular season games, I don't really see any downside.

[USUC]

My only objection to a 16 game playoff is that it may result in a 1-game reduction of the regular season. If we still get 12 regular season games, I don't really see any downside.

If there is a 16 game playoff there will no doubt be an 11 game season. FCS teams have an 11 game schedule. But lets face it, not having a 12 game schedule essentially means dropping the FCS team the majority of FBS teams play every year. No big loss (unless you are USC, UCLA, or ND).

[Omaha 680]

My only objection to a 16 team playoff is that it may result in a 1-game reduction of the regular season. If we still get 12 regular season games, I don't really see any downside.

How big is too big? Or is it possible to have a playoff that is too big?

[beefytee]

How big is too big? Or is it possible to have a playoff that is too big?

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[falafel]

If there is a 16 game playoff there will no doubt be an 11 game season. FCS teams have an 11 game schedule. But lets face it, not having a 12 game schedule essentially means dropping the FCS team the majority of FBS teams play every year. No big loss (unless you are USC, UCLA, or ND).

Dropping a game would mean a huge financial hit for most programs, all to benefit 16 teams (and the tv sponsors, NCAA, etc.). That's a lot to extract from the remaining 100 or so FBS teams.

[wapiti]

I'd rather have three months of meaningful football than one-month of playoffs. Winning a big game during the regular season and a team still has championship hopes; lose it and those hopes are probably gone. That's what makes the regular season exciting and meaningful.

That's what makes teams avoid playing quality teams in the non-conference. Expand the playoffs and playing big games wouldn't be nearly as risky.

[imanihonjin]

Dropping a game would mean a huge financial hit for most programs, all to benefit 16 teams (and the tv sponsors, NCAA, etc.). That's a lot to extract from the remaining 100 or so FBS teams.

What?!? Are you telling me that college athletics is all about the money?

[kccougar]

Haha....you are dogs to a 4-4 team this week. You have plenty of things to worry about other than what BYU fans think.

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