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  • Sitake is not the answer. He would not have lost out on the Hawaii job to Norm Chow if he was worth a shit.

    He is also not going to land us any additional poly recruits. Anae, Kaufusi and more importantly Atuaia are doing fine on the islands.

    Since Sitake has become D-coordinator here are the Poly recruits BYU has gone head to head vs Sitake on. (Sitake is the primary recruiter for these kids)

    Jordan Afo- Brandon Doman vs Sitake (BYU win)
    To'loai Ho-Ching- Doman vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Butch Pauu- Tidwell vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Johnryheem Peoples- Kaufusi vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Kavika Fonua- Howell vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Tico Fuga- Howell vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Isaiah Kaufusi- Kpopp vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Isaiah Nacua- Tidwell vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Jeremiah Ieremia- Tidwell vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Tevita Mounga- Kaufsui vs Sitake (BYU win)
    Mike Tafua- Atuaia/Kpopp vs Sitake (BYU win)

    VJ Fehoko- Anae vs Sitake (Utah win)

    That is it. Sitake has one recruit he has beaten BYU for head to head. Jay Hill and Morgan Scalley had way more success.
    *Banned*

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    • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      Sitake is not the answer. He would not have lost out on the Hawaii job to Norm Chow if he was worth a shit.

      He is also not going to land us any additional poly recruits. Anae, Kaufusi and more importantly Atuaia are doing fine on the islands.

      Since Sitake has become D-coordinator here are the Poly recruits BYU has gone head to head vs Sitake on. (Sitake is the primary recruiter for these kids)

      Jordan Afo- Brandon Doman vs Sitake (BYU win)
      To'loai Ho-Ching- Doman vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Butch Pauu- Tidwell vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Johnryheem Peoples- Kaufusi vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Kavika Fonua- Howell vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Tico Fuga- Howell vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Isaiah Kaufusi- Kpopp vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Isaiah Nacua- Tidwell vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Jeremiah Ieremia- Tidwell vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Tevita Mounga- Kaufsui vs Sitake (BYU win)
      Mike Tafua- Atuaia/Kpopp vs Sitake (BYU win)

      VJ Fehoko- Anae vs Sitake (Utah win)

      That is it. Sitake has one recruit he has beaten BYU for head to head. Jay Hill and Morgan Scalley had way more success.
      Reduce your limited pool of potential coaches down. So your choices are an option coach and star of a hit documentary or a defensive coordinator with even less experience than Sitake.
      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
      --Kendrick Lamar

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      • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
        It is interesting that if the 12 teams from the P12 were located below the Mason-Dixon it would be called deep. Instead it is weaker than expected. Stanford losing is bad for the P12, South Carolina and Texas A&M being awful is proof of depth.
        Other than in SU's head, teams beating up on each other is evidence of balance, but not strength. SU is correct that the NFL is a balanced league, due in part the draft system. But there are a lot of 4th grade flag football leagues that are equally balanced.

        My comment was more based on games vs. non-league opponents. USC losing to BC, UCLA struggling against mediocre teams. Oregon seems to be down this year. They usually don't lose until they are ranked in the top 2-3 and playing Stanford. But yes, it is still a very good league.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
          Jeff Sagarin rates the Pac-12 South as the second best division (behind the SEC West) and the Pac-12 North is 5th (behind the SEC West & East, the Pac12 North, and the Big 12).
          I guess a more accurate way to look at it is that some of the teams that were expected to be really good have struggled, but some of the weaker teams (AZ, Utah, etc.) have excelled beyond expectations. Point conceded.

          Originally posted by Applejack View Post
          If I'm not mistaken, Jeff Sagarin is Lebowski's preffered source for determining who is better between Utah and BYU in years in Utah beats BYU, so you can take that ranking to the bank.


          I think you are confusing me with someone else.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
            Not necessarily but getting rid of Bronco is a very dangerous proposition.
            You are probably correct. You may wish to verify with your sources, but one rumor is that Bronco will resign at season's end. I will not stand by that as the Gospel's truth, as I wager he will coach next season. Just an FYI.
            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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            • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
              Lance Anderson is another name people are starting to float, but he has less experience than even Sitake or Ken N.
              How could you go wrong with an Idaho State grad.

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              • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                I am talking about the real scandal. The one that chased off Crowton. That's when I coined the phrase "ALUF" Someone on the Ute forum started his post of with as"an active LDS Ute fan" BYU is embarassing me as a member of the church. The he went into some diatribe about getting rid of sports at BYU. I mean, really you are an acitve LDS Ute fan and now you can dictate how the school you don't support should act?
                BYU now probably requires for its money sports for the head coach to be an active LDS member. It wasn't always the case.

                And it makes no sense but you and I won't be able to argue with administration over this point. However, we have had non-LDS assistant coaches.

                What makes more sense, and an area where Bronco seems to have loads of errors, is to require assistant coaches to have been successful elsewhere at the college level. Remember when ND hired that highly successful high school coach from Moeller High, and he promptly failed miserably? I believe his name was Faust, but I could be in error.

                BYU is an established enough program, we don't have to hire, unless budget restraints dictate otherwise, to hire unknown quantities for coordinators. Whether Sitake is the answer is uncertain, but we would fare better selecting a known commodity, even if it is for a few years before that coach moves on. Anae is a known commodity. Howell was not.
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                  How could you go wrong with an Idaho State grad.
                  Why don't we look to see which coordinators are being successful everywhere and then pare it down, instead of starting out with a limited pool?
                  "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                  Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    Other than in SU's head, teams beating up on each other is evidence of balance, but not strength. SU is correct that the NFL is a balanced league, due in part the draft system. But there are a lot of 4th grade flag football leagues that are equally balanced.

                    My comment was more based on games vs. non-league opponents. USC losing to BC, UCLA struggling against mediocre teams. Oregon seems to be down this year. They usually don't lose until they are ranked in the top 2-3 and playing Stanford. But yes, it is still a very good league.
                    Ha, Oregon was number 2 when they lost!
                    Get confident, stupid
                    -landpoke

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                    • Surfah is now one of my board heroes.

                      Triple you're almost executing at a high enough level. I'll keep my eye on you.

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                      • Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        Why don't we look to see which coordinators are being successful everywhere and then pare it down, instead of starting out with a limited pool?
                        Marvin Lewis went to Idaho State so it's possible that a good coach could come out of there, not likely but possible.

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                        • I would be fine if Bronco was shown the door. The dude is weird, has a super thin skin, and I believe has an inability to see his own weaknesses to ever improve. Perhaps this is the best BYU can do. With Bronco, there is no perhaps, this is the best BYU can do and will ever be.

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                          • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                            I would be fine if Bronco was shown the door. The dude is weird, has a super thin skin, and I believe has an inability to see his own weaknesses to ever improve. Perhaps this is the best BYU can do. With Bronco, there is no perhaps, this is the best BYU can do and will ever be.
                            It makes no difference to me who leads the BYU football program if the program wins big and important games.

                            For a man to be the BYU football coach, he must

                            (a) defeat Utah more often than not;
                            (b) go to a bowl game 9 out of 10 seasons;
                            (c) once a decade go to a bigger bowl game, such as a BCS or NY6 bowl game;
                            (d) have an average ranking in the Top 25, and a Top 10 ranking once a decade;
                            (e) have winning record every season.

                            I don't expect a BYU coach to win a national championship, or even play in the playoffs. Until BYU is in a P5 conference, that is unreasonable.

                            Too much went wrong this season to evaluate as an outsider. However, the results should not be considered acceptable, and TH should know enough to evaluate if (a) anybody should go, and (b) what his alternatives are.
                            Last edited by Topper; 10-28-2014, 03:02 PM.
                            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                            • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              ..... Jay Hill and Morgan Scalley had way more success.
                              Maybe you guys should be thinking about offering Morgan Scalley the BYU HC job? He would be an awesome HC.

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                              • Originally posted by wally View Post
                                Maybe you guys should be thinking about offering Morgan Scalley the BYU HC job? He would be an awesome HC.
                                But he hates those pricks....so there's that.

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