The Case for Kalani Sitake

[The_Douger]

Jeff Sagarin rates the Pac-12 South as the second best division (behind the SEC West) and the Pac-12 North is 5th (behind the SEC West & East, the Pac12 North, and the Big 12).



If I'm not mistaken, Jeff Sagarin is Lebowski's preffered source for determining who is better between Utah and BYU in years in Utah beats BYU, so you can take that ranking to the bank.

All I see is a significant chasm between the SEC West and the rest of college football.

[Joe Public]

Its a little bit of both. Utah won't win out, but even if they did, they would still need some help. There are about 15 one-loss teams that could all win out and be ranked above Utah.

I think this is right. If Miss. St., Notre Dame, FSU and TCU or KSU all win out, for example, then I'm not sure Utah passes any of them in the standings, even though Utah would have an impressive resume at that point. Even Auburn could win out and have just the one loss to Miss. St. and be a strong playoff candidate.

Of course, many of the teams above Utah right now will play each other, so it isn't as crowded as it might initially seem. There will be some built-in thinning of the ranks. Also, it's challenging for any of these teams to win out, so I think that weighs somewhat against the field just like it does against Utah. FSU probably has the easiest remaining path of the current top-20 teams.

[Commando]

I don't understand the weird chicken little talk nor the clamor over coaches like this. Remember when we just had to keep Doman on staff?

[TripletDaddy]

I don't understand the weird chicken little talk nor the clamor over coaches like this. Remember when we just had to keep Doman on staff?

it is because BYU is only going to win around 7 games this season. FOLLOW THE MONEY!

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

If Utah gives up 500+ yards and 40+ points the next 2 weeks in everyone going to be saying Sitake is an awful defensive coach or will that all be on Whitt? TIA

[Omaha 680]

If Utah gives up 500+ yards and 40+ points the next 2 weeks in everyone going to be saying Sitake is an awful defensive coach or will that all be on Whitt? TIA

Ask Funk.

[USUC]

I don't understand the weird chicken little talk nor the clamor over coaches like this. Remember when we just had to keep Doman on staff?

A product of the BYU hype machine (BYU coaches, BYU media, local and national media, etc) and not getting anywhere close to the expectations set. Maybe next season expectations will be more tempered. But based on history, they won't be.

[Surfah]

Can someone please expound on this "losing the in-state recruiting battle" thing i keep reading the past few days? people need to get a grip. After 4 games BYU was undefeated, nationally ranked, and in the heisman conversation...all with the same head coach, recruits, lack of conference affiliation, and other baggage that we have now. After a slew of injuries hit us, we lost 4 games in a row. Turns out BYU will probably finish the season 6-6 or maybe 7-5. Big deal. All this talk of apocalyptic change is really stupid.

If I were online when this was posted I would have locked this shit after this post. This is all that needed to be said but I'll chip in my $0.02.

Taysom Hill is one of the top 10 college football players in America. And he plays the most important position on the field. That was a catastrophic loss. It can't be understated and the fact that everyone just seems to be forgetting that boggles my mind. I keep hearing arguments "well Taysom didn't play defense" or "the offense is still putting up points". But that's nonsense. Taysom meant more to this team than any single player. Hell, more than any coach. He gave the team its swagger and confidence. He was the playmaker that elevated the play of everyone else on both sides of the ball. He was the undisputed leader on this team. The one guy with credibility to get in the face of another player. BYU just didn't lose a Heisman candidate. It lost its heart. It lost its identity. Taysom going down was soul crushing.

Then you compound the loss of Taysom with all of the other injuries. Algie, Hine, Jamaal, Kurtz, Blackmon, Kearsley, Mathews, Strigham, Wesley. That's just offense. Leavitt, Bills, JJ, Fua, Alisa, Bronson, Marques, Langi. All guys who have missed games due to injury. Our two best pass rushers have played what, 2 games together? Our secondary is depleted and now young guys are forced into playing with limited reps. Jamaal is our 2nd best player on offense and he's played just 4 games. Even your stacked P5 powerhouses would struggle mightily to overcome these kinds of losses.

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down. Fire Bronco? LOL. GTFO. And replace him with who? Bronco isn't without his warts, but he's pretty damn good. Give him legit talent, unlimited resources and no limiting honor code and the guy would put together a defense that wouldn't be scored upon. And as DDD said, nobody was spewing any of this shit when we were 4-0, ranked #18, everyone was discussing BYU and the playoff, and Taysom and Bronco were giving interviews daily on all the nationally syndicated radio shows.

BYU gets crippled by injuries and Utah barely beats the most overrated team in the country in UCLA, barely beat a sorry ass Oregon State team in 2OT and barely beat a USC team with a ton of injuries, just 48 scholarship players with 22 walk ons at home and everyone in Utah fucking loses their minds. Get a grip folks.

[old_gregg]

If I were online when this was posted I would have locked this shit after this post. This is all that needed to be said but I'll chip in my $0.02.

Taysom Hill is one of the top 10 college football players in America. And he plays the most important position on the field. That was a catastrophic loss. It can't be understated and the fact that everyone just seems to be forgetting that boggles my mind. I keep hearing arguments "well Taysom didn't play defense" or "the offense is still putting up points". But that's nonsense. Taysom meant more to this team than any single player. Hell, more than any coach. He gave the team its swagger and confidence. He was the playmaker that elevated the play of everyone else on both sides of the ball. He was the undisputed leader on this team. The one guy with credibility to get in the face of another player. BYU just didn't lose a Heisman candidate. It lost its heart. It lost its identity. Taysom going down was soul crushing.

Then you compound the loss of Taysom with all of the other injuries. Algie, Hine, Jamaal, Kurtz, Blackmon, Kearsley, Mathews, Strigham, Wesley. That's just offense. Leavitt, Bills, JJ, Fua, Alisa, Bronson, Marques, Langi. All guys who have missed games due to injury. Our two best pass rushers have played what, 2 games together? Our secondary is depleted and now young guys are forced into playing with limited reps. Jamaal is our 2nd best player on offense and he's played just 4 games. Even your stacked P5 powerhouses would struggle mightily to overcome these kinds of losses.

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down. Fire Bronco? LOL. GTFO. And replace him with who? Bronco isn't without his warts, but he's pretty damn good. Give him legit talent, unlimited resources and no limiting honor code and the guy would put together a defense that wouldn't be scored upon. And as DDD said, nobody was spewing any of this shit when we were 4-0, ranked #18, everyone was discussing BYU and the playoff, and Taysom and Bronco were giving interviews daily on all the nationally syndicated radio shows.

BYU gets crippled by injuries and Utah barely beats the most overrated team in the country in UCLA, barely beat a sorry ass Oregon State team in 2OT and barely beat a USC team with a ton of injuries, just 48 scholarship players with 22 walk ons at home and everyone in Utah fucking loses their minds. Get a grip folks.

[byu71]

If I were online when this was posted I would have locked this shit after this post. This is all that needed to be said but I'll chip in my $0.02.

Taysom Hill is one of the top 10 college football players in America. And he plays the most important position on the field. That was a catastrophic loss. It can't be understated and the fact that everyone just seems to be forgetting that boggles my mind. I keep hearing arguments "well Taysom didn't play defense" or "the offense is still putting up points". But that's nonsense. Taysom meant more to this team than any single player. Hell, more than any coach. He gave the team its swagger and confidence. He was the playmaker that elevated the play of everyone else on both sides of the ball. He was the undisputed leader on this team. The one guy with credibility to get in the face of another player. BYU just didn't lose a Heisman candidate. It lost its heart. It lost its identity. Taysom going down was soul crushing.

Then you compound the loss of Taysom with all of the other injuries. Algie, Hine, Jamaal, Kurtz, Blackmon, Kearsley, Mathews, Strigham, Wesley. That's just offense. Leavitt, Bills, JJ, Fua, Alisa, Bronson, Marques, Langi. All guys who have missed games due to injury. Our two best pass rushers have played what, 2 games together? Our secondary is depleted and now young guys are forced into playing with limited reps. Jamaal is our 2nd best player on offense and he's played just 4 games. Even your stacked P5 powerhouses would struggle mightily to overcome these kinds of losses.

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down. Fire Bronco? LOL. GTFO. And replace him with who? Bronco isn't without his warts, but he's pretty damn good. Give him legit talent, unlimited resources and no limiting honor code and the guy would put together a defense that wouldn't be scored upon. And as DDD said, nobody was spewing any of this shit when we were 4-0, ranked #18, everyone was discussing BYU and the playoff, and Taysom and Bronco were giving interviews daily on all the nationally syndicated radio shows.

BYU gets crippled by injuries and Utah barely beats the most overrated team in the country in UCLA, barely beat a sorry ass Oregon State team in 2OT and barely beat a USC team with a ton of injuries, just 48 scholarship players with 22 walk ons at home and everyone in Utah fucking loses their minds. Get a grip folks.

No offense, but I usually think the guy who is using the F word multiple times may be the one losing it.

That said, for the most part I think you make some very good points, but I will decide if I need to get a f'en grip or not, thanks.

[Commando]

I would like to add that people not giving Bronco credit for winning w a QB he didn't recruit? LOL. We got the top HS QB in the country and that got us nowhere, and that wasn't due to a recruiting lapse- just a player that didn't develop. Bronco wins a lot of games with a good QB behind center; that's the bottom line. And we got some good ones coming.

[byu71]

I would like to add that people not giving Bronco credit for winning w a QB he didn't recruit? LOL. We got the top HS QB in the country and that got us nowhere, and that wasn't due to a recruiting lapse- just a player that didn't develop. Bronco wins a lot of games with a good QB behind center; that's the bottom line. And we got some good ones coming.

We do? I don't follow recruiting that much. Are they better than Heaps?

[SCcoug]

This needs to be required reading over at CB.

[USUC]

If I were online when this was posted I would have locked this shit after this post. This is all that needed to be said but I'll chip in my $0.02.

Taysom Hill is one of the top 10 college football players in America. And he plays the most important position on the field. That was a catastrophic loss. It can't be understated and the fact that everyone just seems to be forgetting that boggles my mind. I keep hearing arguments "well Taysom didn't play defense" or "the offense is still putting up points". But that's nonsense. Taysom meant more to this team than any single player. Hell, more than any coach. He gave the team its swagger and confidence. He was the playmaker that elevated the play of everyone else on both sides of the ball. He was the undisputed leader on this team. The one guy with credibility to get in the face of another player. BYU just didn't lose a Heisman candidate. It lost its heart. It lost its identity. Taysom going down was soul crushing.

Then you compound the loss of Taysom with all of the other injuries. Algie, Hine, Jamaal, Kurtz, Blackmon, Kearsley, Mathews, Strigham, Wesley. That's just offense. Leavitt, Bills, JJ, Fua, Alisa, Bronson, Marques, Langi. All guys who have missed games due to injury. Our two best pass rushers have played what, 2 games together? Our secondary is depleted and now young guys are forced into playing with limited reps. Jamaal is our 2nd best player on offense and he's played just 4 games. Even your stacked P5 powerhouses would struggle mightily to overcome these kinds of losses.

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down. Fire Bronco? LOL. GTFO. And replace him with who? Bronco isn't without his warts, but he's pretty damn good. Give him legit talent, unlimited resources and no limiting honor code and the guy would put together a defense that wouldn't be scored upon. And as DDD said, nobody was spewing any of this shit when we were 4-0, ranked #18, everyone was discussing BYU and the playoff, and Taysom and Bronco were giving interviews daily on all the nationally syndicated radio shows.

BYU gets crippled by injuries and Utah barely beats the most overrated team in the country in UCLA, barely beat a sorry ass Oregon State team in 2OT and barely beat a USC team with a ton of injuries, just 48 scholarship players with 22 walk ons at home and everyone in Utah fucking loses their minds. Get a grip folks.

Lock this shit!

[MarkGrace]

If I were online when this was posted I would have locked this shit after this post. This is all that needed to be said but I'll chip in my $0.02.

Taysom Hill is one of the top 10 college football players in America. And he plays the most important position on the field. That was a catastrophic loss. It can't be understated and the fact that everyone just seems to be forgetting that boggles my mind. I keep hearing arguments "well Taysom didn't play defense" or "the offense is still putting up points". But that's nonsense. Taysom meant more to this team than any single player. Hell, more than any coach. He gave the team its swagger and confidence. He was the playmaker that elevated the play of everyone else on both sides of the ball. He was the undisputed leader on this team. The one guy with credibility to get in the face of another player. BYU just didn't lose a Heisman candidate. It lost its heart. It lost its identity. Taysom going down was soul crushing.

Then you compound the loss of Taysom with all of the other injuries. Algie, Hine, Jamaal, Kurtz, Blackmon, Kearsley, Mathews, Strigham, Wesley. That's just offense. Leavitt, Bills, JJ, Fua, Alisa, Bronson, Marques, Langi. All guys who have missed games due to injury. Our two best pass rushers have played what, 2 games together? Our secondary is depleted and now young guys are forced into playing with limited reps. Jamaal is our 2nd best player on offense and he's played just 4 games. Even your stacked P5 powerhouses would struggle mightily to overcome these kinds of losses.

Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down. Fire Bronco? LOL. GTFO. And replace him with who? Bronco isn't without his warts, but he's pretty damn good. Give him legit talent, unlimited resources and no limiting honor code and the guy would put together a defense that wouldn't be scored upon. And as DDD said, nobody was spewing any of this shit when we were 4-0, ranked #18, everyone was discussing BYU and the playoff, and Taysom and Bronco were giving interviews daily on all the nationally syndicated radio shows.

BYU gets crippled by injuries and Utah barely beats the most overrated team in the country in UCLA, barely beat a sorry ass Oregon State team in 2OT and barely beat a USC team with a ton of injuries, just 48 scholarship players with 22 walk ons at home and everyone in Utah fucking loses their minds. Get a grip folks.

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