Week 6: The Reckoning

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  • TripletDaddy
    sweet triple
    • Nov 2008
    • 58186

    #76
    Another thing to consider that I know sounds ridiculous, but Arizona may actually be a good team. The last time the Zoo started 4-0 they finished 12-1. For a frosh, Solomon looked really good out there. He made some bad throws and decisions, yes, but rich rod has to be pretty happy with a redshirt freshman poised enough to do what he is doing. It is difficult for any team to go into autzen and win.
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    • wapiti
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 2064

      #77
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Another thing to consider that I know sounds ridiculous, but Arizona may actually be a good team. The last time the Zoo started 4-0 they finished 12-1. For a frosh, Solomon looked really good out there. He made some bad throws and decisions, yes, but rich rod has to be pretty happy with a redshirt freshman poised enough to do what he is doing. It is difficult for any team to go into autzen and win.
      AZ did beat Nevada by 7 and gave up 40-something points to Cal. Quality team for sure.

      This game, combined with the Oregon/Wazzu game, leave me thinking that Oregon is not very good right now. With no offensive line the offense is not the juggernaut we are used to. Defensively they look pretty bad at linebacker. They were making bad reads, taking bad angles, and missing tackles all night. My takeaway from this is that the result speaks more for Oregon than it does Arizona.

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      • byu71
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 22070

        #78
        I was surprised Arizona was 4-0 and unranked. I guess our 4-0 start was against tougher opponents?

        Is anyone going to be upset if Arizona jumps us in the rankings?

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        • Bo Diddley
          Senior
          • Jul 2012
          • 18771

          #79
          Originally posted by wapiti View Post
          AZ did beat Nevada by 7 and gave up 40-something points to Cal. Quality team for sure.

          This game, combined with the Oregon/Wazzu game, leave me thinking that Oregon is not very good right now. With no offensive line the offense is not the juggernaut we are used to. Defensively they look pretty bad at linebacker. They were making bad reads, taking bad angles, and missing tackles all night. My takeaway from this is that the result speaks more for Oregon than it does Arizona.
          And we might be seeing that the PAC is not that good this year. We can still hold out hope that Utah becomes bowl eligible, leading to a BYU/Utah bowl game.

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          • wapiti
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 2064

            #80
            Originally posted by byu71 View Post
            I was surprised Arizona was 4-0 and unranked. I guess our 4-0 start was against tougher opponents?

            Is anyone going to be upset if Arizona jumps us in the rankings?
            They showed absolutely nothing in their 4 games before this one. Non-conference schedule was UNLV, Nevada, and UTSA. They struggled to pull out wins in two of those. And then it took a miracle bowl type finish for them to beat Cal.

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            • wapiti
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 2064

              #81
              Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
              And we might be seeing that the PAC is not that good this year. We can still hold out hope that Utah becomes bowl eligible, leading to a BYU/Utah bowl game.
              No doubt. Big drop-offs at Stanford and Oregon this year. ASU isn't as good. USC has depth problems. The timing is right for UCLA. They have an elite QB and better talent than the rest of the conference. Too bad Texas didn't finish that game.

              It appears that the bottom of the conference is improving while the top is taking a step back. That should lead to parity (or mediocrity) and no playoff berth.

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              • Blueintheface
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 15382

                #82
                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                ACL in fall camp, 1 starter in opening game, 2 starters in Michigan State game. Injuries happen.
                1 of their replacements at tackle appeared, in his profile picture at least, like he was afraid of the cameraman.
                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                • MartyFunkhouser
                  Disciple of RNGesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 18739

                  #83
                  HFN, I am sincerely sorry for that loss. It is absolutely my fault because I have adopted Oregon as a secondary team to Utah. My bad sports luck has affected them and for that I apologize.

                  I realize now what I need to do. I need to become a BYU fan. It is for the good of society as a whole. No one wants to see BYU undefeated this year and I may have to convert to prevent it from happening. I'm just not quite sure if I have it in me to sacrifice in that way, but I'm should try.
                  As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                  --Kendrick Lamar

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                  • Bo Diddley
                    Senior
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 18771

                    #84
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    HFN, I am sincerely sorry for that loss. It is absolutely my fault because I have adopted Oregon as a secondary team to Utah. My bad sports luck has affected them and for that I apologize.

                    I realize now what I need to do. I need to become a BYU fan. It is for the good of society as a whole. No one wants to see BYU undefeated this year and I may have to convert to prevent it from happening. I'm just not quite sure if I have it in me to sacrifice in that way, but I'm should try.
                    Fake it til you make it? Because I truly don't know any BYU fans who want BYU to lose. Still, if you're serious about converting, we should start the decompression now.

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                    • Blueintheface
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 15382

                      #85
                      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                      HFN, I am sincerely sorry for that loss. It is absolutely my fault because I have adopted Oregon as a secondary team to Utah. My bad sports luck has affected them and for that I apologize.

                      I realize now what I need to do. I need to become a BYU fan. It is for the good of society as a whole. No one wants to see BYU undefeated this year and I may have to convert to prevent it from happening. I'm just not quite sure if I have it in me to sacrifice in that way, but I'm should try.
                      I won't sleep until all ALUFs are literally on their hands and knees praying for a BYU loss. The cognitive dissonance is delicious to the taste and very desirable.
                      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                      • Applejack
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3813

                        #86
                        Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                        They showed absolutely nothing in their 4 games before this one. Non-conference schedule was UNLV, Nevada, and UTSA. They struggled to pull out wins in two of those. And then it took a miracle bowl type finish for them to beat Cal.
                        I agree with Wapiti: UNLV, Nevada, Cal, etc. are not the types of wins that should impress anybody.

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                        • Flystripper
                          Degenerate Gambler
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14089

                          #87
                          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                          That was a rough one. After the Wazzu game it was hard to say this was going to be a playoff team with a suspect D and a patchwork OL. I thought Marcus might be enough to get us there on his own. It wasn't meant to be. Frustrating to miss on 3 chances with what is likely the best player that will ever play for Oregon.

                          Plays that seem to work against Oregon are RB dive, RB zone and any wheel route. Also any play when it is 3rd and longer than 7.

                          Lots of bad calls both ways, I'm not going to lie the celebration penalty was a tough one to swallow.
                          They literally didn't cover the wheel route one time all night. My 11 year old is depressed.
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                          • byu71
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22070

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                            I agree with Wapiti: UNLV, Nevada, Cal, etc. are not the types of wins that should impress anybody.
                            I would say UVA definitely better than any of those. Texas, maybe. So I guess we did deserve to be ranked ahead of Arizona. However, I think U of A jumps us this week. Especially since we will only beat USU by 14 points or less.

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                            • Paperback Writer
                              Signature won a Pulitzer
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5211

                              #89
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              and uh, outside of a few collective seasons ever, Alabama and Florida state do "this" every year. That is why BYUs national championship is so impressive, and, to a lesser extent, utah being invited to play In a new bowl game twice.
                              Alabama more so than FSU. By my count, teams that have gone undefeated and untied over the past 50 years. Bold years indicate #1 final ranking in either AP or UPI/Coaches Poll. An * indicates the team did not play in a Bowl game because of probation.

                              Team Nbr Years
                              Penn St. 5 1968, 1969, 1973, 1986, 1994
                              Alabama 4 1966, 1979, 1992, 2009
                              Nebraska 4 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
                              Miami 3 1987, 1991, 2001
                              Ohio St. 3 1968, 2002, 2012*
                              Auburn 3 1993*, 2004, 2010
                              Florida St. 2 1999, 2013
                              USC 2 1972, 2004
                              Texas 2 1969, 2005
                              Oklahoma 2 1974*, 2000
                              Notre Dame 2 1973, 1988
                              Boise St. 2 2006, 2009
                              Utah 2 2004, 2008
                              Arizona St. 2 1970, 1975
                              Tennessee 1 1998
                              Michigan 1 1997
                              Washington 1 1991
                              BYU 1 1984
                              Clemson 1 1981
                              Georgia 1 1980
                              Pittsburgh 1 1976
                              Arkansas 1 1964
                              TCU 1 2010
                              Marshall 1 1999
                              Tulane 1 1998
                              Last edited by Paperback Writer; 10-03-2014, 11:50 AM.
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                              • wapiti
                                Junior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2064

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                                I agree with Wapiti: UNLV, Nevada, Cal, etc. are not the types of wins that should impress anybody.
                                If BYU squeaks by Nevada and Cal the way AZ did, I will agree with you. Regardless, I've never been a defender of this schedule.

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