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  • Interesting turn of events. If CFP follows AP, TCU is now in and baylor is 5.

    next week TCU is screwed, playing a crappy Iowa state team. TCU is out.

    however, baylor plays #9 k state.

    alabama plays Mizzou.
    oregon plays Arizona.
    ohio state loses to Wisconsin.
    florida state plays ga tech.

    Based off ranking, the b12 matchup is probably the best matchup of the week, better than any CCG. Kind of hard to penalize the b12 for no CCG in the same week when the b12 is playing the "toughest" game of any of the p5 conferences.

    possible scenarios: baylor wins, gets in, the other conferences force b12 to make changes. Or Baylor loses and the b12 decides to proactively change. However I don't see any scenario under which Baylor wins and is left out.

    it is also possible that TCU and Baylor BOTH make it into the playoff. One or more of the top 3 lose and Baylor and TCU both win.
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    • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
      And not have to deal with fans. Win-win
      And he gets to leave Nebraska. Win-win-win!
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      • Nebraska's been consistently good under Pellini so it seems a shame to let him go, but it's also true that he never got a conference title or a BCS bowl and that program understandably aspires to greatness.

        Frost seems like a big risk to me. Helfrich made sense to keep the Chip momentum going, but it doesn't seem clear how much responsibility Frost has in that offense, and how good he is going to be at making in-game adjustments and innovating new tweaks to the system. Does he call plays for Oregon this year? Has he ever called played before? Even if he ends up being great, managing a whole program is different beast.

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        • Originally posted by woot View Post
          Nebraska's been consistently good under Pellini so it seems a shame to let him go, but it's also true that he never got a conference title or a BCS bowl and that program understandably aspires to greatness.

          Frost seems like a big risk to me. Helfrich made sense to keep the Chip momentum going, but it doesn't seem clear how much responsibility Frost has in that offense, and how good he is going to be at making in-game adjustments and innovating new tweaks to the system. Does he call plays for Oregon this year? Has he ever called played before? Even if he ends up being great, managing a whole program is different beast.
          At least Frost would be a risk the fans would immediately get behind. We are in a similar position as when we fired Solich. If 9 wins a season isn't good enough, most up and coming coaches without nebraska ties are going to stay away. We can't pay SEC money to bring a lure a sure fire big name. So we are left with a lot of recycled names that probably wouldn't be any better than Pelini or a bunch of question marks.

          Firing Pelini was a risky move by itself so now that it's done I'd rather see them take a risk on a Nebraska guy who will have the goodwill to buy time to succeed than hire another "proven commodity" like Callahan.

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          • Originally posted by woot View Post
            Frost seems like a big risk to me. Helfrich made sense to keep the Chip momentum going, but it doesn't seem clear how much responsibility Frost has in that offense, and how good he is going to be at making in-game adjustments and innovating new tweaks to the system. Does he call plays for Oregon this year? Has he ever called played before? Even if he ends up being great, managing a whole program is different beast.
            It is unclear what Frost's role is this year. Last year he called all the plays, at least that was the party line, this year there were many I refuted rumors that Helf took over the play calling at half of Mich St. From my couple of limited sources the standard comment on Frost is that he's an outstanding technique coach, not great recruiting or organization.
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            • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
              It is unclear what Frost's role is this year. Last year he called all the plays, at least that was the party line, this year there were many I refuted rumors that Helf took over the play calling at half of Mich St. From my couple of limited sources the standard comment on Frost is that he's an outstanding technique coach, not great recruiting or organization.
              I watched Frost win gold medals in both hurdle events and the shot put at the Nebraska State Track Meet. I believe he was also the guy who held back LaGarrette Blount after he sucker punched that Boise player. He's a very versatile guy!

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              • Originally posted by woot View Post
                Nebraska's been consistently good under Pellini so it seems a shame to let him go, but it's also true that he never got a conference title or a BCS bowl and that program understandably aspires to greatness.

                Frost seems like a big risk to me. Helfrich made sense to keep the Chip momentum going, but it doesn't seem clear how much responsibility Frost has in that offense, and how good he is going to be at making in-game adjustments and innovating new tweaks to the system. Does he call plays for Oregon this year? Has he ever called played before? Even if he ends up being great, managing a whole program is different beast.
                Btw, I'm really shocked Pelini was fired before Hoke. What are they waiting for?

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                • Nebraska is delusional. First they jump to the Big10 which doesn't make recruiting in Texas and the South any easier. Now they fire another coach that has done nothing other than win 9 games every year. Granted they don't play in the toughest division (either in the Big12 or the Big10) so 9 wins maybe isn't too spectacular, but it will be a long time before Nebraska is ever really in the national spotlight as a national championship contender.
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                  • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                    Btw, I'm really shocked Pelini was fired before Hoke. What are they waiting for?
                    Hoke is definitely gone; they're just working behind the scenes to keep it more in house and out of respect for Hoke, I'd guess. Hoke's a really good dude and everybody in the AD loves him so even though he's gotta go they'll try to make it pleasant. It also seems it becomes cheaper to fire him after Jan 1, but waiting that long would be a big mistake unless they've got the new guy committed and are just making for his season to end.

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                    • Originally posted by woot View Post
                      Hoke is definitely gone; they're just working behind the scenes to keep it more in house and out of respect for Hoke, I'd guess. Hoke's a really good dude and everybody in the AD loves him so even though he's gotta go they'll try to make it pleasant. It also seems it becomes cheaper to fire him after Jan 1, but waiting that long would be a big mistake unless they've got the new guy committed and are just making for his season to end.
                      I hope Harbaugh comes back to UM. MAN, that would kick up the Big Ten conference and the rivalry game up a few notches..

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                      • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                        I hope Harbaugh comes back to UM. MAN, that would kick up the Big Ten conference and the rivalry game up a few notches..
                        The entire fanbase seems to be determined that he's the only possibility. While I agree he'd be a great hire I don't see it happening and I don't really know who else there is. Miles is a lot of folks' second choice. I'm not sure about him and he'd be a short term coach anyway, but he does tend to win everywhere. His style is a also a good match -- M was boring as hell this year and made some pretty dumb mistakes.

                        Others are hoping for Mullen, but he seems a bit of a one-hit wonder to me. With all these SEC coaches I think a big concern has to be how the coach adjusts to not being able to recruit 30 guys every year and then boot the ones that don't pan out.

                        It's very surprising that Florida seems to want Hugh Freeze. Circumstances being different, I'd probably be rooting for RichRod. As it is, I don't know. Maybe Todd Graham?

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                        • In a one year period, usc, Texas, Florida, Michigan, and Nebraska all looking for coaches. There just aren't that many good candidates out there to fill these high profile slots.
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                          • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            In a one year period, usc, Texas, Florida, Michigan, and Nebraska all looking for coaches. There just aren't that many good candidates out there to fill these high profile slots.
                            Look for at least one established coach to blindside everyone and take one of those jobs.

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                            • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              Interesting turn of events. If CFP follows AP, TCU is now in and baylor is 5.

                              next week TCU is screwed, playing a crappy Iowa state team. TCU is out.

                              however, baylor plays #9 k state.

                              alabama plays Mizzou.
                              oregon plays Arizona.
                              ohio state loses to Wisconsin.
                              florida state plays ga tech.

                              Based off ranking, the b12 matchup is probably the best matchup of the week, better than any CCG. Kind of hard to penalize the b12 for no CCG in the same week when the b12 is playing the "toughest" game of any of the p5 conferences.

                              possible scenarios: baylor wins, gets in, the other conferences force b12 to make changes. Or Baylor loses and the b12 decides to proactively change. However I don't see any scenario under which Baylor wins and is left out.

                              it is also possible that TCU and Baylor BOTH make it into the playoff. One or more of the top 3 lose and Baylor and TCU both win.
                              Not sure if I agree that Baylor has the toughest game this week. I think there are 3 games that are tough. Each game has fairly good teams facing another ranked opponent. However, my pick would be Oregon vs. UofA (Both teams are ranked well). UofA and Rich Rod seem to have Oregon's number. Here is hoping they win again.. Likelihood is small since rematches within the season are tougher to win but if any team could do it, it would be this Zona team.

                              Baylor#7 vs. KSU#12
                              Oregon#2 vs. UofA#11
                              Ohio St.#6 vs. Wiscounsin#14

                              As for Baylor, a 2 point win over a less than mediocre Texas Tech (4-8) team does not help their cause this week nor does it bode much confidence in winning against a tough KSU team.

                              I am more curious to see how the committee ranks teams this Tuesday. If they truly do take into account a team losing a key player this would be the week to have Baylor leapfrog Ohio State into that 5th spot. It would be much harder to justify it next week when Ohio St. wins their CCG. However, their mediocre win over Texas Tech does not help justify that decision.

                              This coming week I see 2 teams losing in the top 4 spot. If that happens, it does not matter that Ohio St. has lost their QB. I cannot see them allowing any other team to leapfrog them in that scenario.. Here is hoping that happens. But it would be a Christmas miracle if Zona won too.

                              I also look forward to rubbing your nose in it when Ohio St. wins this weekend. I am interested in all things Ohio St., but proving you wrong in the process and sticking it to you is just an added bonus..
                              Last edited by dabrockster; 12-01-2014, 06:35 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by woot View Post
                                The entire fanbase seems to be determined that he's the only possibility. While I agree he'd be a great hire I don't see it happening and I don't really know who else there is. Miles is a lot of folks' second choice. I'm not sure about him and he'd be a short term coach anyway, but he does tend to win everywhere. His style is a also a good match -- M was boring as hell this year and made some pretty dumb mistakes.

                                Others are hoping for Mullen, but he seems a bit of a one-hit wonder to me. With all these SEC coaches I think a big concern has to be how the coach adjusts to not being able to recruit 30 guys every year and then boot the ones that don't pan out.

                                It's very surprising that Florida seems to want Hugh Freeze. Circumstances being different, I'd probably be rooting for RichRod. As it is, I don't know. Maybe Todd Graham?
                                One way to stir up talks and bring the rivalry to another level would be for UM to look for an established Ohio native to take the job. One with ties to Ohio St. One that is a solid and great candidate. Someone like a Jim Tressel. Of course that would never happen but that would turn some heads.

                                If we look back on how the rivalry was between Woody and Bo. It all stems from UM taking an Ohio St. coach and hiring them at UM. Bo went on to win a ton and Woody expressed his disdain and the rivalry was cemented by those two. What a better way to re-start the rivalry then to make such a hire..

                                As for as who would be that type of candidate. I have no idea. Possibly Ohio St.'s OC Tom Herman would fit that mold. However, I would never want to see him leave.

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