BYU bowl prep

[byu71]

I have come to the conclusion Bronco is a good coach. Based on his track record when it comes to football, no one can honestly say he is a very good coach or a great coach.

Those who quote 10 win seasons as back up for him being a very good or excellent coach have their heads up their butts. With the schedules we play, you would have to be an average to below average coach to win less than 9-10 games.

So, I am OK with a "good" coach taking this practice approach. I don't know how a very good or excellent coach would be approaching the situation.

[RC Vikings]

Bronco acts like he is annoyed with everything.

[Art Vandelay]

Isn't Bronco something like 5-2 or 6-2 in Bowl games, with one of the losses being his first season? I'm guessing Lavell was probably closer to .500 with his bowl record, against generally similar competition.

I realize most on here aren't as concerned about one more (meaningless) win, versus the preparation for next year. I'm just not sure that 5 more practices in December make much difference for how prepared or (all too often) under prepared BYU is to start the season in August. I'm thinking it is much ado about nothing, but who knows.

Edit: I just looked it up LaVell was 7-14-1 in Bowls. Ouch! Bronco is 4-2

[byu71]

Isn't Bronco something like 5-2 or 6-2 in Bowl games, with one of the losses being his first season? I'm guessing Lavell was probably closer to .500 with his bowl record, against generally similar competition.

I realize most on here aren't as concerned about one more (meaningless) win, versus the preparation for next year. I'm just not sure that 5 more practices in December make much difference for how prepared or (all too often) under prepared BYU is to start the season in August. I'm thinking it is much ado about nothing, but who knows.

Edit: I just looked it up LaVell was 7-14-1 in Bowls. Ouch! Bronco is 4-2

I wonder how many of those bowl games LaVell was favored in vs the number Bronco was favored in.

What would be of note to me is a coach performing above expectations.

From memory, I think in the Bronco 6 bowl games, we were underdogs in only one of them.

In addition LaVell didn't have an indoor practice facility. I don't know if that really matters in Bowl preparation, but some people said it did and one reason we needed the indoor facility.

[hostile]

I don't think that is accurate. They only have 11 days to practice once they start up again next week Monday before the bowl game. No way do they get in 11 practices unless the run two-a-days which is even stupider than not using all your allotted practices.

Rereading the article, that makes sense. I misread it originally.

[Indy Coug]

If BYU can't get ready to play Tulsa with 8-10 practices, I'm not sure what difference anyone thinks another 5 practices will provide. The team has already had thousands of practice reps over the past 5 months and the coaches know better now than in August what plays will work and how to use their personnel. 1.5 weeks is more than enough time.

[Surfah]

If BYU can't get ready to play Tulsa with 8-10 practices, I'm not sure what difference anyone thinks another 5 practices will provide. The team has already had thousands of practice reps over the past 5 months and the coaches know better now than in August what plays will work and how to use their personnel. 1.5 weeks is more than enough time.

I don't think anybody would argue game prep. I wouldn't expect BYU to use all that time prepping for Tulsa. I am more concerned about getting guys like Lark reps. Getting guys like Timo and other redshirts some reps. Getting Fua some time. Putting guys in different positions that we may see next year like adjusting our secondary and seeing who is going to replace JP1.

[Indy Coug]

I wonder how many of those bowl games LaVell was favored in vs the number Bronco was favored in.

What would be of note to me is a coach performing above expectations.

From memory, I think in the Bronco 6 bowl games, we were underdogs in only one of them.

In addition LaVell didn't have an indoor practice facility. I don't know if that really matters in Bowl preparation, but some people said it did and one reason we needed the indoor facility.

LaVell played 11 ranked teams in bowls, Crowton one, and Bronco one.

[dabrockster]

If BYU can't get ready to play Tulsa with 8-10 practices, I'm not sure what difference anyone thinks another 5 practices will provide. The team has already had thousands of practice reps over the past 5 months and the coaches know better now than in August what plays will work and how to use their personnel. 1.5 weeks is more than enough time.

This is more then prep for Tulsa. It is about grooming your future players and using it as a teaching tool for them.. Teaching goes out the window over the course of the season because you are busy working with the teams to prep for the next game. In this case they could utilize some of those practices to work with the freshman, RS-Rm's and possible starters for next year..

I was irritated at first by this information but am now OK with it..

[Uncle Ted]

If BYU can't get ready to play Tulsa with 8-10 practices, I'm not sure what difference anyone thinks another 5 practices will provide. The team has already had thousands of practice reps over the past 5 months and the coaches know better now than in August what plays will work and how to use their personnel. 1.5 weeks is more than enough time.

When I was in college I found that cramming for a final didn't help me all that much. I either knew the subject by then or I didn't and trying to cram for it would just give me a headache for the final. I think I did better on the finals by relaxing during reading days. A few times I even went fishing. Of course, if there was some new stuff on the final I would, of course, go over that.

I think Bronco has figured this out as well. More practices will just yield small diminishing returns (maybe just get one of the players hurt) and Tulsa isn't all that new. We have played and lost to them before.

[Uncle Ted]

In addition LaVell didn't have an indoor practice facility. I don't know if that really matters in Bowl preparation, but some people said it did and one reason we needed the indoor facility.

Yes, with an indoor practice facility BYU could shut the blinds to get a jump on the bowl prep by practicing this weekend (including Sunday) and no one would even know (except for the Lord).

[Scorcho]

BYU Fans have a right to be pissed off about this.

All they heard during fall camp was how the BYU Offense was a well-oiled machine. Bronco claimed his team was ahead of schedule and opted to cancel a few practices in August. And then came the Ole Miss game.

I think Bronco is having trouble with the "Mastery" part of the phrase "Position Mastery"

[jay santos]

BYU Fans have a right to be pissed off about this.

All they heard during fall camp was how the BYU Offense was a well-oiled machine. Bronco claimed his team was ahead of schedule and opted to cancel a few practices in August. And then came the Ole Miss game.

I think Bronco is having trouble with the "Mastery" part of the phrase "Position Mastery"

This is what was in the back of my mind when I posted this.

[SteelBlue]

Isn't Bronco something like 5-2 or 6-2 in Bowl games, with one of the losses being his first season? I'm guessing Lavell was probably closer to .500 with his bowl record, against generally similar competition.
Edit: I just looked it up LaVell was 7-14-1 in Bowls. Ouch! Bronco is 4-2

It was a lot harder to make a bowl in Lavell's day and I'd argue that competition has generally not been similar. Maybe in the mid to late 90's but not before.

[lambdacoug]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars...tball.html.csp

This was in the wire a few days ago. I was surprised that noone was upset about it.

I saw it, had deja vu from Fall camp and decided to not get worked up over it since the result is known...we'll get our asses handed to us by Tulsa.