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  • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    Worst national championship game ever.
    this is one of those games that leads to change in the system.

    the terrifying thing for all college football fans is that both of these schools will be Top 5-10 schools next pre-season, setting up another one of these showdowns.
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    • Originally posted by woot View Post
      Not to mention that the game Okie St lost was the day of the plane crash. That's the sort of thing that the human polls are supposed to correct for, and yet it's the computers saying they deserved it over Bama.

      It'll be interesting to see how the vote comes out. A lot of folk have apparently said they'll vote for a split if Bama wins.
      After his turd of a showing by LSU I doubt they come close to getting enough votes in the AP.

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      • Originally posted by woot View Post
        Not to mention that the game Okie St lost was the day of the plane crash. That's the sort of thing that the human polls are supposed to correct for, and yet it's the computers saying they deserved it over Bama.

        It'll be interesting to see how the vote comes out. A lot of folk have apparently said they'll vote for a split if Bama wins.
        I actually had that typed in and deleted it. If that's not a case for mitigation of a loss, I'd like to know what is. Loss of your own coach? It's not like athletes from one sport exist in a vacuum from the rest at a school.

        I have no problem with any rematches that occur in the bounds of a seeded playoff, btw.
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        • Originally posted by woot View Post
          Not to mention that the game Okie St lost was the day of the plane crash. That's the sort of thing that the human polls are supposed to correct for, and yet it's the computers saying they deserved it over Bama.

          It'll be interesting to see how the vote comes out. A lot of folk have apparently said they'll vote for a split if Bama wins.
          I hope they vote split. While LSU isnt helping its cause by being shut out, I still think that they have absolutely dominated enough to merit the split, if only because they are playing Alabama. Had LSU lost to anyone else (OK State, Boise, whatever) then they are out completely. But LSU already beat this team.
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          • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            this is one of those games that leads to change in the system.

            the terrifying thing for all college football fans is that both of these schools will be Top 5-10 schools next pre-season, setting up another one of these showdowns.
            If what is coming out of Baton Rogue about Metzenberger is close to true (and if he develops like he is supposed to) then we should challenge again. Especially if Mathieu stays around.
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            • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
              That entire point of view is subjective, as you well know. The closest thing (not that it's especially close) we have to objective standards would be computer polls. And I don't need to tell you how those came out.

              Not to mention that this game is less interesting than the first, if possible.
              I don't think the intent of the computer polls or human polls was to ever create "the most interesting game". Matching up the two best teams was the goal.

              And .950 to .930 in the computer polls is hardly a mandate.
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              • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                Those FG hold recaps were pretty awesome
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                • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                  If what is coming out of Baton Rogue about Metzenberger is close to true (and if he develops like he is supposed to) then we should challenge again. Especially if Mathieu stays around.
                  Mathieu's only a sophomore, right? He's still got one more year.
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                  • I hope LSU scores here just to keep a split vote in the mix.

                    Also since we're interested in this sort of thing, if LSU scores a TD here, they will kick the extra point. This is the wrong choice but every coach gets it wrong.

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                    • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                      I actually had that typed in and deleted it. If that's not a case for mitigation of a loss, I'd like to know what is. Loss of your own coach? It's not like athletes from one sport exist in a vacuum from the rest at a school.

                      I have no problem with any rematches that occur in the bounds of a seeded playoff, btw.
                      I'd much rather see a +1 compared to this system, no question. An 8-team playoff would be even better.
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                      • LOL @ Jefferson

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                        • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                          I don't think the intent of the computer polls or human polls was to ever create "the most interesting game". Matching up the two best teams was the goal.

                          And .950 to .930 in the computer polls is hardly a mandate.
                          "Best" is subjective, and you are defending it only because your team benefited. When you can admit that, we'll talk again. Your argument rings hollow, and lest you say I'm saying that simply because of the score now, I invite you to search back a couple of months.
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                          • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                            If what is coming out of Baton Rogue about Metzenberger is close to true (and if he develops like he is supposed to) then we should challenge again. Especially if Mathieu stays around.
                            Mathieu isnt going anywhere. LSU will be a serious contender next season. So will Alabama.

                            I put no stock in Georgia or South Carolina as contenders, sorry.
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                            • Big mistake not putting in Lee.

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                              • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                                Mathieu's only a sophomore, right? He's still got one more year.
                                Yes, a soph. Remind me what the rule for NFL eligibility is - I honestly don't know.

                                And I will go ahead and second guess Miles for leaving Jefferson in. I believe I did that a few pages back, actually.
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