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  • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    I wasn't aware of the continued close relationship between Sandusky and the program. If he was always around, and especially scouting, recruiting, etc, then I'll go ahead and more fully condemn Paterno and McQueery like the rest of you. It was these facts I was asking for. But nobody ever responded with them, mostly just attacks and insults.

    And the people running the 2nd Mile program seem to be even more worthy of our ire. They were told about the allegations (though we may not know whether the School administrators told them the whole story) and continued to let Sandusky hang around the kids and set him up with them. They were really pimping them out. These people were truly in a position where the care of these children was their main duty. Their actual job.
    Even the teary eyed Matt Millen who was on the board of the 2nd mile program and had an active role after he heard about Sandusky the first time.
    *Banned*

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    • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
      I wasn't aware of the continued close relationship between Sandusky and the program. If he was always around, and especially scouting, recruiting, etc, then I'll go ahead and more fully condemn Paterno and McQueery like the rest of you. It was these facts I was asking for. But nobody ever responded with them, mostly just attacks and insults.

      And the people running the 2nd Mile program seem to be even more worthy of our ire. They were told about the allegations (though we may not know whether the School administrators told them the whole story) and continued to let Sandusky hang around the kids and set him up with them. They were really pimping them out. These people were truly in a position where the care of these children was their main duty. Their actual job.
      Now it's our fault you don't know how to do your own research.
      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

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      • I wonder if Sandusky killed this guy. I'm just speculating.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...=me&ref=sports
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • McQueary placed on administrative leave. Penn St BOT source says "it's a complex issue" when asked why he still has his job.

          Crazy that Tim Curley, charged with perjury because of his testimony during the Sandusky grand jury, is having his legal fees paid by the university.
          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
          "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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          • Obviously I don't know the law, but from what I see on movies and TV (which I'm sure is reality), prosecutors, judges, and juries seem to bend it to fit their needs.

            I'd like to have McQueary, Paterno, and anyone else that was in the know on this forced to divulge their motives for not reporting this to the police. And if the motives are not rational, they should be charged with perjury. They deserve to do time.

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            • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
              McQueary placed on administrative leave. Penn St BOT source says "it's a complex issue" when asked why he still has his job.

              Crazy that Tim Curley, charged with perjury because of his testimony during the Sandusky grand jury, is having his legal fees paid by the university.
              They may be thinking about keeping him as friendly a witness as possible. (I'm being cynical, I know, but....)
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                They may be thinking about keeping him as friendly a witness as possible. (I'm being cynical, I know, but....)
                This is not unusual. Some or most state laws require it, at least until there has been an adjudication of criminal conduct.
                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                --Jonathan Swift

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                • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  They may be thinking about keeping him as friendly a witness as possible. (I'm being cynical, I know, but....)
                  IF you are acting within the course or sope of your employment (or even arguably so, as he claims) then your employer is typically required to defend you, as SU said.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/
                    Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                    • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                      I will always click on a Sports by Brooks link, regardless of whether it's applicable to the current discussion or not.
                      If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

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                      • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                        They may be thinking about keeping him as friendly a witness as possible. (I'm being cynical, I know, but....)
                        In my jurisdiction, state law requires the government employer to pay the attorneys fees for their employees, for work-related suits.

                        Also, if its being paid by an insurer (it probably is) why would Penn State care?
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                        • Originally posted by Cougarmandias View Post
                          In my jurisdiction, state law requires the government employer to pay the attorneys fees for their employees, for work-related suits.

                          Also, if its being paid by an insurer (it probably is) why would Penn State care?
                          GREAT POST.
                          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                          --Jonathan Swift

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                          • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                            This has gotten beyond my comprehension. I don't get it. I'm sorry; I can no longer be of much help in explaining any of this.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              This has gotten beyond my comprehension. I don't get it. I'm sorry; I can no longer be of much help in explaining any of this.
                              What's new?

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                              • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                                IF you are acting within the course or sope of your employment (or even arguably so, as he claims) then your employer is typically required to defend you, as SU said.
                                To defend you, yes, but not to keep you on the job, especially for allegedly wrongful conduct. The defense by the insurer can also be under a reservation of rights, at least here in our fair state. So PSU is not necessarily legally required be be nice to McQueary. They just have to pay his attorney fees. There can be a whole lot going on here, including agreements (spoken or unspoken, written or unwritten) with prosecutors about how a star witness is going to be treated.
                                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                                ― W.H. Auden


                                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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