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  • Originally posted by CJF View Post
    Maybe not. Please explain. I would like to understand.
    I think the cases will ultimately settle for a lot of money. This is especially so if there are coverage issues. Penn State will put a lot of pressure on the insurers to settle.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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    • I sadly expect SU will be taking a break from the board while seeking pro hac vice status in Pennsylvania. He has already promised settlement of all claims, no punitive damages and 100% insurance coverage. His phone has to be ringing off the hook from callers in the 814 area code.

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      • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
        In cases such as this sometimes it really is all about having your day in court and being heard. That is important to some people because it heals the years of silence in a way that money cannot.
        I don't think I've ever seen this occur, and I have seen children severely burned by gasoline fires and die slow and agonizing deaths directly because of business executives' gross negligence. There are other ways to achieve vindication than casting your fate to a court of law where a lot of money is being offered. There is publicity, starting a charity, etc.

        I can tell you're not a litigator. Civil litiagation is ultimately about money, unless you're a fool, regardless of how severe the injury. It's a highly inefficient and ultimately unreliable means to simply vent your spleen and make a statement.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
          I sadly expect SU will be taking a break from the board while seeking pro hac vice status in Pennsylvania. He has already promised settlement of all claims, no punitive damages and 100% insurance coverage. His phone has to be ringing off the hook from callers in the 814 area code.
          This does not look to me like a case where insurance coverage will be much in question. Unviersity administrators were not the molesters.

          Is this your field?

          May I suggest you tax and securities lawyers read creekster.
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • Everybody peace, leave me alone. I have a demand letter to an insurer to finish.
            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

            --Jonathan Swift

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            • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
              He has already promised settlement of all claims, no punitive damages and 100% insurance coverage. His phone has to be ringing off the hook from callers in the 814 area code.
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              • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                SeattleUte is the new Larry H. Parker.
                Leave me alone.
                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                --Jonathan Swift

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                • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  I think the cases will ultimately settle for a lot of money. This is especially so if there are coverage issues. Penn State will put a lot of pressure on the insurers to settle.
                  Ok, I guess I did understand what you were saying. I don't think you understood what I was saying. Niku also followed up with a similar thought. I will try again. With this many victims it is very difficult to predict the healing process they choose. As a child I went through this kind situation also. From my own perspective, depending on the stage of my recovery would heavily impact my willingness to give PSU a break and settle. If this was just Sandusky, I might concede your point.
                  A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                  • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    I don't think I've ever seen this occur, and I have seen children severely burned by gasoline fires and die slow and agonizing deaths directly because of business executives' gross negligence. There are other ways to achieve vindication than casting your fate to a court of law where a lot of money is being offered. There is publicity, starting a charity, etc.

                    I can tell you're not a litigator. Civil litiagation is ultimately about money, unless you're a fool, regardless of how severe the injury. It's a highly inefficient and ultimately unreliable means to simply vent your spleen and make a statement.
                    Again, you're the one who doesn't understand. Honestly, that makes me glad for you. Most likely you've never had to experience being sexually abused. Fighting back from a horrible death of a child is much different than fighting back from being raped.
                    A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                    • Originally posted by CJF View Post
                      Again, you're the one who doesn't understand. Honestly, that makes me glad for you. Most likely you've never had to experience being sexually abused. Fighting back from a horrible death of a child is much different than fighting back from being raped.
                      I hope I'm not understanding you. I'd rather be raped than have my child die, particulary die a terrible suffering death. Jesus Christ almighty.

                      This thread is bizarre.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        I hope I'm not understanding you. I'd rather be raped than have my child die, particulary die a terrible suffering death. Jesus Christ almighty.

                        This thread is bizarre.
                        I hope you never have to experience either one.

                        That said, you are not understanding me. I'm saying that the justice one seeks is different when they are alive versus the dead having someone fight for them.
                        A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                        • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          I hope I'm not understanding you. I'd rather be raped than have my child die, particulary die a terrible suffering death. Jesus Christ almighty.

                          This thread is bizarre.
                          He said different. I alone on this board can speak to both situations, at least that I know of, and CJF is right on the money. You can't even compare the healing processes at all because they are not even close to the same.
                          Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                          • Originally posted by CJF View Post
                            I hope you never have to experience either one.
                            Amen, brother.

                            By the way, there are infinate ways to settle a case; settlements can help to finance and otherwise provide the vindication a victim might seek, providing full control over how this is achieved. This is particularly true where the defendant is the state. In fact, in some cases, where the plaintiff has suffered horribly, the defense would not be combative at all (for lack of a better word).
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                              He said different. I alone on this board can speak to both situations, at least that I know of, and CJF is right on the money. You can't even compare the healing processes at all because they are not even close to the same.
                              I hope you don't think I would dispute what you say.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                                My wake up call as a parent is that I need to instill in my kids that they always do the right thing even if the consequences could be bad (getting fired for example).
                                Good point. I'm dubious that our already hypersensitive, controlling society needs me to be even more confining of my children than I already am. But instilling character is always timely.
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