week 3 open thread

[Portland Ute]

Watching ESPN Game Day at Florida State, I am left wondering a bit why the NCAA turns a blind eye to Florida State and their use of Native American names and imagery.

I think most of what they do to be appropriate. I don't mind their spear on their helmet, the nickname or even the actual Seminole warrior they use as a mascot.

But can their "War Chant" and "Tomahawk Chop" be any more cliche and stereotypical?

I think it just highlights how lame the NCAA is. They turn a blind eye (which I have no real problem with) to FSU yet they harass other schools who are far, far less overt in their Native American imagery.

If I'm one of those "other schools", the next time the NCAA comes calling I hand the representatives round trip tickets to Tallahassee and tell them "Take care of Florida State first, then come talk to us."

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I'm 20 or so minutes behind on the DVR because I went out this morning for a jog, Herby just threw the MWC under the bus. Talked about how nobody will see Boise for the next ten weeks because they are in the MWC, their games aren't on, nobody will be talking about them.

[Portland Ute]

Boise state's defense not impressive so far. But maybe toledo is just that good.

I wasn't impressed with Boise's defense vs. Toledo. They don't seem to be as good as in past seasons. I did not see the Georgia game, so I don't have a comparison.

The offense, other than the RB, is far less explosive. The receivers are good, but they are not to the level yet that the graduated receivers were.

Their special teams, the kicking in particular, are not normal Boise level. TCU may have a chance to take them down.

[Portland Ute]

I'm 20 or so minutes behind on the DVR because I went out this morning for a jog, Herby just threw the MWC under the bus. Talked about how nobody will see Boise for the next ten weeks because they are in the MWC, their games aren't on, nobody will be talking about them.

I hate Boise. I don't hide that. But I don't get what that Herbie is trying to prove. Yeah, we know the MWC isn't on TV. Does that mean Boise and TCU aren't good?

ESPN guys certainly have their marching orders.

On the other hand, I find it satisfying that ESPN has turned on Boise now they are in the MWC. I, along with many others, predicted that Boise wouldn't get near the love that they got before and we were, unsurprisingly, right.

[Uncle Ted]

Boise st would once again rip through both BYU and Utah this year. I cannot figure out how they get players to go there.

I would venture to guess that Boise St is one of the easier schools with a top football program for a college school in terms of academics. Check out their Forbes profile (#614 over all). Only a 6% four year graduation rate? Maybe they go after all the athletics with questionable academics?

[Portland Ute]

I would venture to guess that Boise St is one of the easier schools with a top football program for a college school in terms of academics. Check out their Forbes profile (#614 over all). Only a 6% four year graduation rate? Maybe they go after all the athletics with questionable academics?

I've asked before and I never heard it answered definitively: Does Boise accept partial qualifiers? Did they when they were in the WAC? Do they now that they are in the MWC (I would seriously doubt this)?

[Jeff Lebowski]

I have never fully understood the hate for Boise State. Jealousy?

[BoylenOver]

I wasn't impressed with Boise's defense vs. Toledo. They don't seem to be as good as in past seasons. I did not see the Georgia game, so I don't have a comparison.

The offense, other than the RB, is far less explosive. The receivers are good, but they are not to the level yet that the graduated receivers were.

Their special teams, the kicking in particular, are not normal Boise level. TCU may have a chance to take them down.

Their defensive line dominated Georgia. And Shoemaker/Kirby Moore may not be on the same level as Pettis/Young, but they both made some great plays last night.

Kellen Moore as a senior will be enough to offset a lack of firepower in other facets of the offense, and the defense is still good enough to beat most teams. The TCU game will be a lot of fun to watch, as will their trip to San Diego.

[BoylenOver]

I have never fully understood the hate for Boise State. Jealousy?

Personally, I have zero issue with their team. I love watching them play, in fact. But their fans are more delusional than most.

[Blueintheface]

Personally, I have zero issue with their team. I love watching them play, in fact. But their fans are more delusional than most.

I guess I don't get that either. Their fans are delusional why? Because they've proven that they are undoubtedly the best non-AQ? Ute fans need not show any jealousy over the way they carry on. You now belong and that may never belong.

[Pheidippides]

I have never fully understood the hate for Boise State. Jealousy?

Last night phat helped me realize that my hatred of Boise State is all about my hatred for Idaho. Which is good, because Moore was a joy to watch last night.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Last night phat helped me realize that my hatred of Boise State is all about my hatred for Idaho. Which is good, because Moore was a joy to watch last night.

You hate Idaho?

You don't seem to be a very happy person. So much hate.

[Moliere]

Watching ESPN Game Day at Florida State, I am left wondering a bit why the NCAA turns a blind eye to Florida State and their use of Native American names and imagery.

I think most of what they do to be appropriate. I don't mind their spear on their helmet, the nickname or even the actual Seminole warrior they use as a mascot.

But can their "War Chant" and "Tomahawk Chop" be any more cliche and stereotypical?

I think it just highlights how lame the NCAA is. They turn a blind eye (which I have no real problem with) to FSU yet they harass other schools who are far, far less overt in their Native American imagery.

If I'm one of those "other schools", the next time the NCAA comes calling I hand the representatives round trip tickets to Tallahassee and tell them "Take care of Florida State first, then come talk to us."

FSU has permission from the Seminole tribe to use their nickname. That makes it all okay.

[BoylenOver]

I guess I don't get that either. Their fans are delusional why? Because they've proven that they are undoubtedly the best non-AQ? Ute fans need not show any jealousy over the way they carry on. You now belong and that may never belong.

I know just as many BYU fans that hate Boise.

Their fans don't discuss them in terms of "(being) undoubtedly the best non-AQ". They talk about them in terms of being a CFB powerhouse. And unfairly or not, Boise hasn't played for a national title. They've only played in two BCS bowls.

[BoylenOver]

FSU has permission from the Seminole tribe to use their nickname. That makes it all okay.

Utah has the blessing of the Ute tribe, but the only remaining vestiges of anything resembling Native American imagery is the nickname itself and the drum-and-feather, which could easily be construed to signify something much more benign.