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"Dear Tom Holmoe" - the thread for saying stuff to Tom Holmoe
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How can you be so sure?"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Hey Tom,
Make it happen and I take you out to In-n-Out for lunch.
Sincerely,
DaBrockster
PS: When you come to Columbus to play tOSU. You are welcome to stay at my home. Don't bother answering YOhio's begging emails to stay with him. His house SUCKS, plus it is in Dayton
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Dear Tom,
Sorry about all the nasty things I said in my e-mail this morning. They were only 90% true.
Peace,
GM.Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
"Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson
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Dear Tom,
Kindly indulge a Ute fan here. Last year there was a great deal of talk on sports message boards and the local press that Utah and BYU had formed a pact or gentlemen's agreement years ago that neither would leave the conference they were currently in without taking the other with them.
If that was the case, then Utah clearly broke that pact by joining the PAC12 and leaving BYU in what must now seem like outer darkness. If there was a pact, you and BYU administration have shown remarkable restraint in offering no comment on this subject whatsoever, especially in light of your subsequent difficulty in catching on with an AQ conference.
Or was it all just sour-grapes bullshit some pimple faced pipsqeak pulled out of his ass over on Cougarbored?
Sincerely
Borderline DivineThe Holy War is over, and Utah won - Federal Ute
Think of how stupid the average American is. Then remember that half are even dumber than that. - George Carlin
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Excellent.Originally posted by Borderline Divine View PostDear Tom,
Kindly indulge a Ute fan here. Last year there was a great deal of talk on sports message boards and the local press that Utah and BYU had formed a pact or gentlemen's agreement years ago that neither would leave the conference they were currently in without taking the other with them.
If that was the case, then Utah clearly broke that pact by joining the PAC12 and leaving BYU in what must now seem like outer darkness. If there was a pact, you and BYU administration have shown remarkable restraint in offering no comment on this subject whatsoever, especially in light of your subsequent difficulty in catching on with an AQ conference.
Or was it all just sour-grapes bullshit some pimple faced pipsqeak pulled out of his ass over on Cougarbored?
Sincerely
Borderline Divine"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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I have heard Val Hale called worse. But he did confirm on teh radio early this month that BYU and Utah had a gentlemans agreement in place at least when he was AD.Originally posted by Borderline Divine View PostDear Tom,
Kindly indulge a Ute fan here. Last year there was a great deal of talk on sports message boards and the local press that Utah and BYU had formed a pact or gentlemen's agreement years ago that neither would leave the conference they were currently in without taking the other with them.
If that was the case, then Utah clearly broke that pact by joining the PAC12 and leaving BYU in what must now seem like outer darkness. If there was a pact, you and BYU administration have shown remarkable restraint in offering no comment on this subject whatsoever, especially in light of your subsequent difficulty in catching on with an AQ conference.
Or was it all just sour-grapes bullshit some pimple faced pipsqeak pulled out of his ass over on Cougarbored?
Sincerely
Borderline Divine
He also said the Pac voted to expand in the mid 90s and the ADs were unanimous to add BYU and Utah, then the school presidents voted and 1 school (who he would not name but eluded to Stanford) voted it down. They lost 9-1.*Banned*
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Originally posted by Borderline Divine View PostDear Tom,
Kindly indulge a Ute fan here. Last year there was a great deal of talk on sports message boards and the local press that Utah and BYU had formed a pact or gentlemen's agreement years ago that neither would leave the conference they were currently in without taking the other with them.
If that was the case, then Utah clearly broke that pact by joining the PAC12 and leaving BYU in what must now seem like outer darkness. If there was a pact, you and BYU administration have shown remarkable restraint in offering no comment on this subject whatsoever, especially in light of your subsequent difficulty in catching on with an AQ conference.
Or was it all just sour-grapes bullshit some pimple faced pipsqeak pulled out of his ass over on Cougarbored?
Sincerely
Borderline Divine

BURN on BYU fans. Face!
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Tom alluded to it in a press conference as well.Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostI have heard Val Hale called worse. But he did confirm on teh radio early this month that BYU and Utah had a gentlemans agreement in place at least when he was AD.So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.
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This is what Glen Tuckett and Val Hale have said on the record about BYU's prior flirtations with bigger conferences.Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostI have heard Val Hale called worse. But he did confirm on teh radio early this month that BYU and Utah had a gentlemans agreement in place at least when he was AD.
He also said the Pac voted to expand in the mid 90s and the ADs were unanimous to add BYU and Utah, then the school presidents voted and 1 school (who he would not name but eluded to Stanford) voted it down. They lost 9-1.
Asked if the Cougars were ever on the verge of being admitted, [Tuckett] says, "Not really. It wasn't like we were invited to dinner; that was not the case at all. You know it couldn't have been too serious because nothing happened. If they had invited us, it would have been the Pac-11. We were never invited, it never got to that point, but if it had, we were the No. 1 candidate."
BYU had another chance to leave the WAC in 1993-94, when the Southwest Conference was dissolving. According to Hale, BYU was among the originals ticketed for the new Big 12 Conference.
Hale asserts that former Texas governor Ann Richards was a Baylor graduate and vowed to block the assimilation of Texas A&M, Texas and Texas Tech into the new conference, if Baylor was excluded.
Hence, BYU had nowhere to go.
Hale says BYU also prepared material for Big 12 consideration, but when the Baylor issue arose, the matter was dead.
Asked how closely BYU was considered by the Big 12, Tuckett says, "Not as close as the Pac-10."
"We were never really close there," continues Tuckett, "except every time an NCAA meeting or a CFA (College Football Association) meeting or an A.D.'s meeting came up, everyone would say, 'We'd like to have you guys; we have a lot of Mormons in the area.' But it was just A.D. talk, as friends, and never got past the talking point."“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Originally posted by LA Ute View PostThis is what Glen Tuckett and Val Hale have said on the record about BYU's prior flirtations with bigger conferences.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...c-10.html?pg=2
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I'm wondering if you just cant control yourself.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I see a statement that I know is...questionable, or a folk tale, and I must correct it.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
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I'm wondering if you just cant control yourself.
I'm looking for a 12-step program.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I'm looking for a DesNews article that rebuts what you just said here. I'll get back to you.Originally posted by YOhio View PostHe just has poor judgment and social skills. I think he actually thinks he's being helpful.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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