The Big East expansion groundswell thread

[kccougar]

It is hard to believe that less than 20 months after the BoT was inspired to declare independence, that the same BoT was inspired to house BYU's programs in the Big East and the WCC, and then only after furiously trying to negotiate entrance into the B12.

Basically, what I am saying is that a reasonable conclusion (not the only conclusion, but a reasonable one) would be that BYU's athletic moves are not inspired by much of anything lately other than desperation and opportunism. Just my opinion, of course.

I certainly wouldn't claim any of the moves as "inspired".

[Art Vandelay]

It is hard to believe that less than 20 months after the BoT was inspired to declare independence, that the same BoT was inspired to house BYU's programs in the Big East and the WCC, and then only after furiously trying to negotiate entrance into the B12.

Basically, what I am saying is that a reasonable conclusion (not the only conclusion, but a reasonable one) would be that BYU's athletic moves are not inspired by much of anything lately other than desperation and opportunism. Just my opinion, of course.

Has it ever been stated, other than by a few of the more-believing fans, that any of the above noted conference changes were by inspiration? I'm not trying to be snarky, I honestly don't know.

[TripletDaddy]

Has it ever been stated, other than by a few of the more-believing fans, that any of the above noted conference changes were by inspiration? I'm not trying to be snarky, I honestly don't know.

This was the first line in my post, to which atheistcougar responded:

For the most stalwart among you that may think that God, via the BoT, is at the helm of this, I submit the following:

So my post, and his response, really only apply to that subset of fans. If those fans do not exist here, no worries.

[Flystripper]

I wonder what the feelings would be like here/CB if BE decides BYU is taking too long and picks someone else (Like the Big 12 move w/ TCU)..

Some will say Indy is still good etc. But this would mean BYU would of muffed on 2 conference realignments with the only players in town (Who else is going to invite us in the future???).. Does BYU get a second chance with them?? Possibly but these are things I hope they are thinking about if the BOT is sitting on their hands again (If in fact they did that with Big 12)..

After missing on the super hot chick who is not very bright and is mentally unstable, BYU gets approached by the ok looking girl that has a decent personality, but has a history of being taken advantage of, and is more than a little slutty. While BYU is looking at itself in the bathroom mirror for a very long time, the slutty girl leaves with the stoner from San Diego. After BYU hears the door close it decides to open the mirrored medicine cabinet. On the lower shelf BYU spies a jar of petroleum jelly and says to itself, "Yeah going solo is just fine."

[snowcat]

Why would notre dame give us an annual football game as part of a condition of BYU joining the Big East for football only?

We should have negociated this as part of the Prop 8 package.

[lambdacoug]

We should have negociated this as part of the Prop 8 package.

[Jarid in Cedar]

After missing on the super hot chick who is not very bright and is mentally unstable, BYU gets approached by the ok looking girl that has a decent personality, but has a history of being taken advantage of, and is more than a little slutty. While BYU is looking at itself in the bathroom mirror for a very long time, the slutty girl leaves with the stoner from San Diego. After BYU hears the door close it decides to open the mirrored medicine cabinet. On the lower shelf BYU spies a jar of petroleum jelly and says to itself, "Yeah going solo is just fine."

[Hsaru]

How does this apply to BYU? BYU would be a football only Big East member.

That seems like a meaningless distinction to me, they schedule as a favor to the Big East as a conference for letting them park their sports in the Big East, so why should it matter if the teams you play in football are football only. If you are ND why not make part of the scheduling agreement a team you are already scheduled to play 6 times, seems logical enough.

[Art Vandelay]

After missing on the super hot chick who is not very bright and is mentally unstable, BYU gets approached by the ok looking girl that has a decent personality, but has a history of being taken advantage of, and is more than a little slutty. While BYU is looking at itself in the bathroom mirror for a very long time, the slutty girl leaves with the stoner from San Diego. After BYU hears the door close it decides to open the mirrored medicine cabinet. On the lower shelf BYU spies a jar of petroleum jelly and says to itself, "Yeah going solo is just fine."

Not only only guffaw-inducing, but that made me snort-laugh too.

[Hsaru]

That seems like a meaningless distinction to me, they schedule as a favor to the Big East as a conference for letting them park their sports in the Big East, so why should it matter if the teams you play in football are football only. If you are ND why not make part of the scheduling agreement a team you are already scheduled to play 6 times, seems logical enough.

And they play Pitt pretty much every year and that game will likely be going away, might as well replace it with BYU.

[TripletDaddy]

That seems like a meaningless distinction to me, they schedule as a favor to the Big East as a conference for letting them park their sports in the Big East, so why should it matter if the teams you play in football are football only. If you are ND why not make part of the scheduling agreement a team you are already scheduled to play 6 times, seems logical enough.

Oh, ok. Simple enough then.

If you are right, then I suppose we can sit back and expect an annual matchup with Notre Dame to be announced any week now.

[jay santos]

I bet that's pretty close to what we see (conjecture! opinion!).

What I DON'T want to see is some half assed BB arrangement like four games with football only schools all in the pre-season. Whip-de-do, we end up getting South Florida, SMU, Rutgers, and Louisville in a sample year, all in December. Holmoe can already schedule like that.

[kccougar]

Stealing from Cougarboard, how would you compare the Big East (West) to the PAC12 South? It's not totally clear-cut how to rank the potential BE teams since they don't play in the same conference right now, but if you made an attempt to stack them top to bottom you'd get a comparison that looks kind of like this:

USC----Boise State
UCLA---Houston
ASU----BYU
Utah---SMU
CU-----Air Force
AZ-----UCF

I think BE wins 4-2 in those matchups.

[Art Vandelay]

Stealing from Cougarboard, how would you compare the Big East (West) to the PAC12 South? It's not totally clear-cut how to rank the potential BE teams since they don't play in the same conference right now, but if you made an attempt to stack them top to bottom you'd get a comparison that looks kind of like this:

USC----Boise State
UCLA---Houston
ASU----BYU
Utah---SMU
CU-----Air Force
AZ-----UCF

I think BE wins 4-2 in those matchups.

Perhaps this year. However, most years it would be at 4-2 if not 5-1 P12S.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

What I DON'T want to see is some half assed BB arrangement like four games with football only schools all in the pre-season. Whip-de-do, we end up getting South Florida, SMU, Rutgers, and Louisville in a sample year, all in December. Holmoe can already schedule like that.

Can Holmoe get Louisville and Rutgers to do a home and home? I'm not sure he can, and certainly not on any regular basis. The hoops team needs help getting teams into the MC and not just on neutral courts.