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  • San Juan Sun
    Kicked to the curb
    • Dec 2009
    • 9214

    #1756
    I like the WCC, but maybe it's not as stable as we thought.

    "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

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    • Surfah
      Where's Wallace?
      • Nov 2008
      • 33726

      #1757
      Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
      I like the WCC, but maybe it's not as stable as we thought.

      http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...eying-big-east
      Interesting. I wonder why Gonzaga would want that though. In most seasons they're going to be the #1 team in the WCC and at worst #3. The WCC is a 2-3 team tournament league. They consistently play a nice OCC schedule giving them plenty of RPI and SOS bumps. Would the money in a Big East/A-10 conference be worth the travel? Especially now with Cuse, Pitt and WVU gone.
      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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      • UtahJazzFan88
        Jazz | Utes | Raiders
        • Oct 2011
        • 1678

        #1758


        Say hello to SDSU, Boise State, Houston in the MWC.

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        • Top Ute
          Junior Member
          • May 2010
          • 2194

          #1759
          Originally posted by UtahJazzFan88 View Post
          http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...st-sources-say

          Say hello to SDSU, Boise State, Houston in the MWC.
          You forgot another school in your list

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          • LiveCoug
            LA Ute loves me
            • Nov 2008
            • 18488

            #1760
            Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
            You forgot another school in your list
            Good point. Congrats Tulsa!

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            • ERCougar
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 10978

              #1761
              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
              Interesting. I wonder why Gonzaga would want that though. In most seasons they're going to be the #1 team in the WCC and at worst #3. The WCC is a 2-3 team tournament league. They consistently play a nice OCC schedule giving them plenty of RPI and SOS bumps. Would the money in a Big East/A-10 conference be worth the travel? Especially now with Cuse, Pitt and WVU gone.
              Why does this logic not apply to B12 basketball?
              At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
              -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #1762
                Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                Why does this logic not apply to B12 basketball?
                Because we're more than just a basketball school unlike Gonzaga.
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                • ERCougar
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10978

                  #1763
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  Because we're more than just a basketball school unlike Gonzaga.
                  Obviously.
                  But there were plenty griping about WCC basketball last year, just on its own. I doubt we make the tourney last year in the B12 (or the MWC, for that matter).
                  At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                  -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                    Time to camp
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 26082

                    #1764
                    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                    Because we're more than just a basketball school unlike Gonzaga.
                    So BYU can apply it to Big 12 football as well!
                    Get confident, stupid
                    -landpoke

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                    • Surfah
                      Where's Wallace?
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 33726

                      #1765
                      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                      Obviously.
                      But there were plenty griping about WCC basketball last year, just on its own. I doubt we make the tourney last year in the B12 (or the MWC, for that matter).
                      I don't see why that matters, but I am not sure I agree anyway. I think BYU would have beaten out CSU for the 4th seed in the MWC because I believe BYU would have beat them head to head. And they could have slid in the Big 12 also based on some wins at the MC boosting their RPI.
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                      • Surfah
                        Where's Wallace?
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 33726

                        #1766
                        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                        So BYU can apply it to Big 12 football as well!
                        Show me the money and you'll have a better argument.
                        "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                        -Turtle
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                        • ERCougar
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10978

                          #1767
                          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                          I don't see why that matters, but I am not sure I agree anyway. I think BYU would have beaten out CSU for the 4th seed in the MWC because I believe BYU would have beat them head to head. And they could have slid in the Big 12 also based on some wins at the MC boosting their RPI.
                          Sure, it's debatable, and like you say, doesn't matter that much.
                          My defense of the WCC for basketball (and really, we're basketball-only too as far as this discussion goes--B12 for all sports is a no-brainer if we have the option) centers around the same thing you said about Gonzaga basketball--we're easily in the top 3 of a 2-3 bid league every year. That's not a bad position, and one that we may miss (a little--playing Kansas every year would more than make up for it) if we ever get to not being the big fish in a small pond.
                          At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                          -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                          • Pelado
                            Bald not naked
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21137

                            #1768
                            Originally posted by UtahJazzFan88 View Post
                            http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...st-sources-say

                            Say hello to SDSU, Boise State, Houston in the MWC.
                            From the article...

                            Brey also said the discussion among the Catholic schools was to make it a national Catholic conference with Xavier, Saint Louis, Dayton, Creighton, Gonzaga and possibly Saint Mary's as well.
                            This makes a little more sense than Gonzaga just joining the 7 BE basketball schools. It's still a hell of a lot of travel for the Bulldogs (and Gaels).
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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                            • Surfah
                              Where's Wallace?
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 33726

                              #1769
                              The 7 Catholic schools agree to leave. NCAA will allow them to keep an auto berth in a new league. Poof goes the best college basketball conference.
                              "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                              -Turtle
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                              • smokymountainrain
                                Impressive Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 22593

                                #1770
                                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                                The 7 Catholic schools agree to leave. NCAA will allow them to keep an auto berth in a new league. Poof goes the best college basketball conference.
                                All because of college football.
                                I'm like LeBron James.
                                -mpfunk

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