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  • #61
    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    This hire all but makes LaVell the defacto coach of the Utes. There are BYU fingerprints all over the place. Kind of fitting the day after BYU becomes the all time leader in the baketball rivalry!
    Are you unaware that Chow would be returning to his alma mater?
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    • #62
      Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
      When your AD talks about 'getting all the Chinamen lined up to build the place...', you can tell you are no longer in the right place.
      The Chinamen are NOT the issue!
      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

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      • #63
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        Wow big surprise. I found out when junkie sent me a text. I didnt even know this was on the radar. Here is my simple view on this matter:

        Is NoCho a step up from Utahs current position? I think so, definitely. It is a great hire for Utah.

        Don't know if he will be able to work his same SC magic given the lack of horses at Utah (we saw how well he performed at Fucla with no horses) but I still think he will be able to contribute in a significant way.

        To a previous question posed in the thread, no, NoCho did almost no recruiting at SC. That was all Ed O, Pete, Kiffen, and Petes son Brendan to a large degree. Mst everyone agrees that Norm is not a people person. That being said, who cares? Whit can figure out recruiting on his own and use Norms brand recognition to aid in recruiting, even if Norm isn't going to physically be going door to door on the recruiting trail.

        One thing is for sure....it just became a heck of lot easier for Utah to recruit QBs over the coming seasons. Very few OCs with Norms resume.

        This hire all but makes LaVell the defacto coach of the Utes. There are BYU fingerprints all over the place. Kind of fitting the day after BYU becomes the all time leader in the baketball rivalry!
        For me, the big deal is a commitment to change the offense and hopefully evolve a coherent offensive game plan that will impact recruiting in that players will be recruited with a specific idea on how they will fit into the offense. We have been recruiting the "best available althlete" for the last 7 years, and then trying to figure out how to run an offense with what is available. That philosophy is not going to cut it in the Pac-12.
        "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

        "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

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        • #64
          Originally posted by falafel View Post
          Is there anything out there to substantiate this other than the tweet? Who is that guy, anyway? Utah's Gman? I'm going to wait until someone else, ANYONE, jumps on this one.
          No. He is Rivals national football reporter. No one inside of Utah has said anything that substantial.
          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

          "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

          "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

          -Rick Majerus

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          • #65
            Originally posted by falafel View Post
            Is there anything out there to substantiate this other than the tweet? Who is that guy, anyway? Utah's Gman? I'm going to wait until someone else, ANYONE, jumps on this one.
            How about Lya? The original tweet was from a Rivals/Yahoo writer.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
              Are you unaware that Chow would be returning to his alma mater?
              Hack.

              That said, he made his coaching name at BYU. Cougar coaching DNA has a wide spread in the world of football.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • #67
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                This is good for both Utah and BYU. Good for Utah because Chow is obviously an upgrade over Schroderick. Good for BYU because Chow is not the answer nor the guru he once was. The game has passed him by. I would say Utah and UCLA have similar talent and Chow was unable to get anything going. He struck out at Tennessee and was mutually relieved of his duties at SC. He does not recruit (although rumor has it he landed Su'afilo so maybe there could be a transfer after a mission) and he clashes with a lot of people. I can see him lasting 2 maybe 3 years tops. But like I said it is an upgrade over what they had.
                Shocking analysis. Let's see insult to the current staff, check. Statements about how this is a ultimately a bad move for Utah, check. I do think you forgot the part how Utah will never beat BYU again though and how Doman is so far and away a better OC.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                  Yes, not good.

                  Odd though, if Chow had been offered the HC job, we still would have taken it.
                  Not so odd, IMO. Just smart. BTW, it's not widely known but Chow was Machen's choice for the Utah job over Meyer. Ironic that Bernie later hired Meyer at Florida.
                  “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                  ― W.H. Auden

                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                  -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

                  "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                    Not so odd, IMO. Just smart. BTW, it's not widely known but Chow was Machen's choice for the Utah job over Meyer. Ironic that Bernie later hired Meyer at Florida.
                    Did Chow turn the job down? If so, not the smartest move.
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                      Hack.

                      That said, he made his coaching name at BYU. Cougar coaching DNA has a wide spread in the world of football.
                      But it all began at ... Utah State!
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden

                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        Did Chow turn the job down? If so, not the smartest move.
                        No, Hill wanted Meyer and got his way.
                        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                        ― W.H. Auden

                        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

                        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                          Are you unaware that Chow would be returning to his alma mater?
                          No I'm not unaware.

                          Are you unaware that nobody associates him with being at Utah as an undergraduate when discussing his coaching credentials and accomplishments?

                          Chow is a BYU guy, he learned from LaVell. Utah has done well using BYU talent to improve it's program. It is a wise strategy.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by falafel View Post
                            Is there anything out there to substantiate this other than the tweet? Who is that guy, anyway? Utah's Gman? I'm going to wait until someone else, ANYONE, jumps on this one.
                            Tom Dienhart is a national writer for Rivals. Lya Wodraska is the beat writer for the Trib. And the official Utezone twitter account said discussions were ongoing, but nothing is official.

                            Tom Dienhart

                            Lya Wodraska

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                              Hack.

                              That said, he made his coaching name at BYU. Cougar coaching DNA has a wide spread in the world of football.
                              Are you saying that I ought to read the entire thread before responding? If so, apologies.
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                              • #75
                                Comrade actually made me LOL with this one:

                                http://utefans.net/message.php?id=11...message1144556

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