2011 BYU Football Thread

[Sizzle]

Mike Hague is listed at 5'10" 220 lbs and will be a Jr. next year. I believe that he still has a redshirt year left though. I usually don't think it is wise to have guys switch positions (especially switching sides of the ball) once they've burned 2 years of eligibility with so much time invested. Rarely do I think that they are able to contribute much even if they played the position in High School.

Take a look at Vic So'oto as an example. At TE he played bits as a Freshman and Soph (with a RS year in between due to injury). He made the switch to LB his Jr. year, which was lost to injury after two games in 2008. 2009 he had only 10 tackles in spot duty. 2010, his third year on the defensive side of the ball, he made a nice impact, but it took a while to get there. Had he not had two years lost to injury, we wouldn't have had him this season (and defensively we would have missed him big time).

Hague is on the borderline of making sense to switch to safety. A redshirt year next year, followed by two to play I think he could pull it off. Riley, absolutely not. Keep him on the other side to play QB as a backup or situational guy to come in and run option or line him up in the backfield with Jake. I wouldn't even mind them putting in a few plays with him in the slot. Riley did good things when he played, though not at the level that Jake did as a QB. Let him be a playmaker next year and a guy that opponents will have to account for. That is, if Drew Phillips isn't scoring TDs everytime he touches the ball.

[Blueintheface]

Foote can't play RB, that's why I'm wondering if they've considered moving him.

It seems that BYU has a lot of these guys. Guys without great speed or vision that are just tough, strong guys. Many never find their nitch. I suspect his might be at FB but that's just a guess.

[Blueintheface]

It's always the Ute fan who has to set the wayward BYU fan straight. Glad you're on the job, UD.

If I had a rubber hose...

[Sizzle]

It seems that BYU has a lot of these guys. Guys without great speed or vision that are just tough, strong guys. Many never find their nitch. I suspect his might be at FB but that's just a guess.

It is why the switch to a 3-4 was a good one defensively. Guys who are tough, strong guys, decent speed but not fast, but not the behemoths on the line. Having those tough, smart types of players who like to crack skulls on the defensive side of the ball gives the defense a lot of flexibility and the ability to drop 8 guys into pass coverage who can all cover. I think it helps (only slightly though) compensate for maybe the lack of ability that BYU traditionally has at DB.

[woot]

It is why the switch to a 3-4 was a good one defensively. Guys who are tough, strong guys, decent speed but not fast, but not the behemoths on the line. Having those tough, smart types of players who like to crack skulls on the defensive side of the ball gives the defense a lot of flexibility and the ability to drop 8 guys into pass coverage who can all cover. I think it helps (only slightly though) compensate for maybe the lack of ability that BYU traditionally has at DB.

Agreed. I really like BYU running a 3-4. It's funny how hard it can be for coaches to tailor their schemes to the players they can get, but that's something that BYU is typically really good at.

I'm probably just a bit bitter on this topic right now after dealing with Michigan's 3-3-5 defense this season. Not that their LBs were particularly great, but with 4 freshmen and a bad first-time-starting senior as your DBs, you've got to think about switching to a 3-4 (bonus: your DC, who has a history of sucking running his own scheme, was forced to run a 3-3-5 while having not a clue how to do it).

Wow rant. Between RichRod and Anae the suspense is killing me.

[LA Ute]

If I had a rubber hose...

I am sensing a violent streak here. UtahDan, help!

[MarkGrace]

What does the future hold for Richard Wilson? I know many have said that he's not big enough to be a classic BYU tight end, but I was watching Moeaki yesterday and surprised by how similar he was in size to Wilson. Wilson is 6'2-3" and 233 lbs; Moeaki is 6'3" 252 lbs. Of course 20 pounds is a noticeable difference, but given that Wilson is just a freshman he could easily add mass over the next handful of years.

I really liked the way Moeaki played and caught a vision of maybe what Wilson could be. He has that mass of a TE but lined up in the slot and really moved a lot like a receiver.

[HBCoug]

Hans Olsen can now join the guys over on TBS with hyping up players that will never do shit in a BYU uniform.

David Foote has great company in Landon Jaussi, BJ Peterson, and Carter Mees.

I call this group the "Matt Smith All-Stars." The Jaussi hype was non-stop and nauseating.

[Surfah]

I just noticed we had another OT commit a week ago or so. Brian Rawlinson out of Oklahoma. His old man and uncle won a title with BYU. He was a decommit from North Texas. Scout has him at 2 stars. Has nice size, 6-5, 285. Looks like he's going on a mission though and is projected for 2013.

[cougjunkie]

I call this group the "Matt Smith All-Stars." The Jaussi hype was non-stop and nauseating.

Matt Smith another great one.

So we have the "Matt Smith All-stars" we also need the "Walt Williams All-stars" guys that were hyped to no end and never made it to BYU they include obviously Walt himself, Seta Pohahau, Magnum Mauga, Travis Brown and Eddie Scipio.

Finally we have the "Ben Olson All-stars" big time recruits that actually show up at BYU but either never live up to the hype or leave shortly after arriving. Ofa Mohetau, Jacob Bower, Matangi Tonga, Bernard Afutiti, and Shannon Benton. (This is a big list Michael Morris, Joe Griffin and Chad Barney all deserve honorable mention)

[Top Ute]

Matt Smith another great one.

So we have the "Matt Smith All-stars" we also need the "Walt Williams All-stars" guys that were hyped to no end and never made it to BYU they include obviously Walt himself, Seta Pohahau, Magnum Mauga, Travis Brown and Eddie Scipio.

Finally we have the "Ben Olson All-stars" big time recruits that actually show up at BYU but either never live up to the hype or leave shortly after arriving. Ofa Mohetau, Jacob Bower, Matangi Tonga, Bernard Afutiti, and Shannon Benton. (This is a big list Michael Morris, Joe Griffin and Chad Barney all deserve honorable mention)

I've gotten inspiration from this for another thread. Certainly I can get submissions for a Joe Faifili All-Star team at Utah.

[LA Ute]

I've gotten inspiration from this for another thread. Certainly I can get submissions for a Joe Faifili All-Star team at Utah.

Don't forget Dudley LaPorte.

[Guest]

A-Train, those of us who mod this site don't have the time or patience to fully run through your little experiment on how far things can be pushed, particularly when it is apparent you are now thumbing your nose. My advice to you is to pick a more tame avatar. You are peeing in this little swimming pool. It ain't polite.

Relax. I was simply having fun and people need to lighten up. My last avatar was quite tame in my opinion and there are others on this board that have avatars that are far more revealing which I do not mind. That being said, I enjoy pictures of good looking women or pictures that make me laugh and if I can find one that accomplishes both, then I thought in the spirit of giving, I would.

That said, if I offended you and put your priesthood worthiness in question, than I do apologize.

[Sizzle]

Matt Smith another great one.

So we have the "Matt Smith All-stars" we also need the "Walt Williams All-stars" guys that were hyped to no end and never made it to BYU they include obviously Walt himself, Seta Pohahau, Magnum Mauga, Travis Brown and Eddie Scipio.

Finally we have the "Ben Olson All-stars" big time recruits that actually show up at BYU but either never live up to the hype or leave shortly after arriving. Ofa Mohetau, Jacob Bower, Matangi Tonga, Bernard Afutiti, and Shannon Benton. (This is a big list Michael Morris, Joe Griffin and Chad Barney all deserve honorable mention)

Too many guys on that list I knew all too well at the Y.

[Sizzle]

Matt Smith another great one.

So we have the "Matt Smith All-stars" we also need the "Walt Williams All-stars" guys that were hyped to no end and never made it to BYU they include obviously Walt himself, Seta Pohahau, Magnum Mauga, Travis Brown and Eddie Scipio.

Finally we have the "Ben Olson All-stars" big time recruits that actually show up at BYU but either never live up to the hype or leave shortly after arriving. Ofa Mohetau, Jacob Bower, Matangi Tonga, Bernard Afutiti, and Shannon Benton. (This is a big list Michael Morris, Joe Griffin and Chad Barney all deserve honorable mention)

Can I also throw out Thomas Stancil, Ray Hudson and Kayle Buchanon as a few more names for the Matt Smith All Stars? Also what about Mr Home Run waiting to happen?