2011 BYU Football Thread

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

One of them is a Lott Award candidate and the other isn't.

One has a shot at being a finalist for that award at some point in his career and the other doesn't.

[smokymountainrain]

One of them is a Lott Award candidate and the other isn't.

KVN is a Lott award candidate? Impressive.

[GrizzledVeteran]

One has a shot at being a finalist for that award at some point in his career and the other doesn't.

Hopefully, Van Noy has learned how to make plays other than the times where he isn't being blocked. If he's learned to do that, maybe he will be a finalist some day.

[Commando]

Hopefully, Van Noy has learned how to make plays other than the times where he isn't being blocked. If he's learned to do that, maybe he will be a finalist some day.

What are you- Frazier's dad? Dude makes plenty of plays when he's being blocked.

[GrizzledVeteran]

What are you- Frazier's dad? Dude makes plenty of plays when he's being blocked.

Last year? Wrong. He couldn't shed blocks to save his life.

[MarkGrace]

And he says KVN and Frazier are "neck and neck". You'd have to absolutely love Bronco if you were a vet who was willing to work your tail off every day.

He said that right before mentioning that KVN is possibly playing at a higher level than anybody else on the defense. Sounds like his neck is starting to stick out a bit further.

[oxcoug]

Last year? Wrong. He couldn't shed blocks to save his life.

At what point last year?

KVN's play evolved considerably between UW and Utah last year (not surprising given his youth).

[oxcoug]

KVN is a Lott award candidate? Impressive.

Also - let's be candid about the "Lott Impact Award" - it's a relatively new thing and it's hard to gauge how much it means in football terms since the organization is about helping youth.

The Butkus Award it ain't.

"The Pacific Club IMPACT Foundation® provides an IMPACT® award to individuals who demonstrate excellence in the field of athletics. The IMPACT® award recognizes college football's Defensive Player of the Year who best exemplifies Integrity, Maturity, Performance, Academics, Community and Tenacity."

From Wikipedia: "The award purports to equally recognize the personal character of the winning player as well as his athletic excellence."

I'm a big fan of personal character but give me a choice between 1986 Lawrence Taylor and 2006 Cam Jensen on a football team I'm trying to win games with and I'm pretty sure I take LT.

Anywho.... looks like we don't need to be citing a listing on the 40-name watch list for the Lott Award as evidence of job-winning bonafides.

[Sizzle]

So apparently Hadley laid out Colby Jorgensen and separated his shoulder? Great job, dipshit. :anger:

Maybe I'm the only one who sees the silver lining in this. Let Colby redshirt. We're fine at TE with Holt/Mahina/Wilson.

[smokymountainrain]

Also - let's be candid about the "Lott Impact Award" - it's a relatively new thing and it's hard to gauge how much it means in football terms since the organization is about helping youth.

The Butkus Award it ain't.

"The Pacific Club IMPACT Foundation® provides an IMPACT® award to individuals who demonstrate excellence in the field of athletics. The IMPACT® award recognizes college football's Defensive Player of the Year who best exemplifies Integrity, Maturity, Performance, Academics, Community and Tenacity."

From Wikipedia: "The award purports to equally recognize the personal character of the winning player as well as his athletic excellence."

I'm a big fan of personal character but give me a choice between 1986 Lawrence Taylor and 2006 Cam Jensen on a football team I'm trying to win games with and I'm pretty sure I take LT.

Anywho.... looks like we don't need to be citing a listing on the 40-name watch list for the Lott Award as evidence of job-winning bonafides.

Thanks for the post. I thought I followed the college football awards fairly closely, but hadn't heard of that one. Now I know why.

[smokymountainrain]

Maybe I'm the only one who sees the silver lining in this. Let Colby redshirt. We're fine at TE with Holt/Mahina/Wilson.

You're not. I feel bad for Colby, but from a football perspective long term, it's probably a good thing.

[Commando]

You're not. I feel bad for Colby, but from a football perspective long term, it's probably a good thing.

He's gonna catch a lot of Tanner Mangum TDs. Would have been nice to have a weapon like that in the corner of the endzone in red zone situations this year, though.

[oxcoug]

You can feel the hate in these comments from Hinds:

"I love it, I absolutely love how Bronco explained it to me when I met with him," he said about playing OLB. "I think that with what I can do athletically, that playing outside linebacker in a 3-4 system is perfect for me."

He'll also be playing in that system for a defensive coach that esteems very highly.

"Coach Mendenhall is one of the best, maybe the best defensive mind in the country," said Hinds. "He knows defense and how to coach defense as well as anyone. That was a big thing in my mind. I know that people say that I could have played in better defensive systems, and that I committed because of the other things besides football, but that isn't true at all. I love everything about how they play football there, and how Bronco coaches on defense."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705389003/BYU-football-Troy-Hinds-commits-to-BYU-for-every-reason.html

[MarkGrace]

You're not. I feel bad for Colby, but from a football perspective long term, it's probably a good thing.

But he could have redshirted (which was probably likely anyway) w/o being injured and that would have been even better.

[smokymountainrain]

But he could have redshirted (which was probably likely anyway) w/o being injured and that would have been even better.

Of course, if he was a likely redshirt regardless. I didn't know he was a likely redshirt prior to the injury, however.