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  • YOhio
    Hipster Mode
    • Nov 2008
    • 26165

    #16
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Can somebody do a similar thing for Utah? How many departures? Thx in advance.
    Do your own damn research.

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    • WashingtonCoug
      Monsters like me
      • Jan 2009
      • 1489

      #17
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Can somebody do a similar thing for Utah? How many departures? Thx in advance.
      Do you even know who played for Utah this year?
      "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
      —Abraham Maslow

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      • BlueHair
        Boom Bitches!!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 2894

        #18
        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        So looking at next years schedule is really interesting. It looked like murderers row early on especially with how BYU was playing and who was on it. Now all of the sudden it looks much more manageable.

        at Texas will of course be a very tough game and they will bounce back but they are a 5-7 team with no quarterback.

        Oregon State another perrenial tough team is also going to be coming off a 5-7 season.

        Ole Miss was 4-8 and they lose Masoli.

        Utah at home looks much more winnable next year.

        UCF at home is also a winnable game.

        Utah State at home is a revenge game that I think we win big.

        at Lousiana Tech- win
        at Hawaii- toss up
        Idaho- win
        San Jose State- win
        New Mexico State- win

        It looks like we could potentially get to 10 wins again next season.
        Are the Hawaii and the Louisiana Tech games scheduled for consecutive weeks? That is an insane amount of travel.

        I wish we could rearrange this schedule to play some of the cupcakes at the beginning of the season.
        Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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        • jay santos
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 13652

          #19
          CJ, why would you think Jray beats out Uale or anyone at safety? He's had about 20 safeties ahead of him on the depth chart. What makes you think he's not going to be a dud?

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          • Goatnapper'96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10920

            #20
            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            CJ, why would you think Jray beats out Uale or anyone at safety? He's had about 20 safeties ahead of him on the depth chart. What makes you think he's not going to be a dud?
            Uale is going to start. His experience will mean something to Mendenhall. With a more experienced and talented LB corps, I doubt the safeties have to make the same plays. Good safety play reverts to Quinn Gooch and the walk on from Texas who just always had themselves in the right position. The LBs will be the playmakers.

            I think the defensive two deep is such:

            DE: Putnam, Bryson
            NG: Fuga, Tuiloma
            DE: Ethyn M, Dulan
            SOLB: Pendleton, Frazier
            MLB: Ogletree, Jorgenson
            BLB: Kaveinga, Leing-Wei
            WOLB: Van Noy, Atkinson
            FC: Eason, Buckner
            SS: Bradley, Galai
            FS: Uale, Everitt
            BC: Aguirre, Hadley
            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
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            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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            • jay santos
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 13652

              #21
              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
              Uale is going to start. His experience will mean something to Mendenhall. With a more experienced and talented LB corps, I doubt the safeties have to make the same plays. Good safety play reverts to Quinn Gooch and the walk on from Texas who just always had themselves in the right position. The LBs will be the playmakers.

              I think the defensive two deep is such:

              DE: Putnam, Bryson
              NG: Fuga, Tuiloma
              DE: Ethyn M, Dulan
              SOLB: Pendleton, Frazier
              MLB: Ogletree, Jorgenson
              BLB: Kaveinga, Leing-Wei
              WOLB: Van Noy, Atkinson
              FC: Eason, Buckner
              SS: Bradley, Galai
              FS: Uale, Everitt
              BC: Aguirre, Hadley
              Who is the safety Bradley?

              Something I'd like is a speed RB that can get to the edge, but you can't always get what you want.

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              • Goatnapper'96
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10920

                #22
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                Who is the safety Bradley?

                Something I'd like is a speed RB that can get to the edge, but you can't always get what you want.
                I meant Sampson.

                On offense, I expect the tight ends to start dominating the middle of the field. I don't yet know who it will be, but I think the tight ends start to look like BYU tight ends of old next year. With that development alone, BYU will be formidable against just about every foe offensively. The OL will be great and the RB corps while not great will be better. Throw in Heaps' arm, BYU will be able to move the ball through the air to Jacobsen, Hoffman, CHambers and Hafoka. With the tight ends starting to dominate the middle, BYU will be hard to defend. The great wildcard is the role that Phillips and Apo will play, who probably have more playmaking ability than any of the current skill players - save Jacobsen if the Wizard of Oz gives him a heart. If Anae is running the offense I doubt there is the efforts to incorporate the two playmaking newcomers as much as a new OC might seek to utilize their unique skillsets.
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • cougjunkie
                  *Banned*
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 23223

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                  CJ, why would you think Jray beats out Uale or anyone at safety? He's had about 20 safeties ahead of him on the depth chart. What makes you think he's not going to be a dud?
                  Everytime I have seen Jray get in to the game he seems to show his athleticism. He has all the tools to be an elite safety however after 2 years in the system he sill looks very lost. If he can learn to play instinctively I think he will be pretty good. (Rumor has it he may be going on a mission after this year, I will believe it when I see it but that is what his uncle told me).
                  *Banned*

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                  • Goatnapper'96
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10920

                    #24
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    Everytime I have seen Jray get in to the game he seems to show his athleticism. He has all the tools to be an elite safety however after 2 years in the system he sill looks very lost. If he can learn to play instinctively I think he will be pretty good. (Rumor has it he may be going on a mission after this year, I will believe it when I see it but that is what his uncle told me).
                    It wouldn't be a bad thing if he goes on a mission after this year. I think he could be good in time. If he goes then I think Hadley is the back up SS behind Sampson and Kori Gaines is the #2 BC.

                    It also sets up a future SS/FS combo of Sorenson and Bills. That will be a nipple hardening double duo of Andrew Rich as seniors. I think Sorenson redshirts next year and then backs up/plays special teams for a year before starting at SS for two years. I think Bills is the starting FS from the first game in 2012.
                    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                    -General George S. Patton

                    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                    -DOCTOR Wuap

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                    • Goatnapper'96
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10920

                      #25
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Projected 2 deep next year:

                      QB- Heaps, Lark, Munns
                      RB- Diluigi, Quezada
                      FB- Kariya, Mendenhall
                      WR- Hoffman, Chambers, Hafoka
                      WR- Apo, Jordan Smith
                      WR- Jacobsen, Phillips, Falslev
                      TE- Mahina, Holt, Matthews,
                      LT- Reynolds, Kahaiai'li, Anae
                      LG- Hansen, Vaitai
                      C- Brown, Tushaus
                      RG- Reynolds, Thorson
                      RT- B. Brown, Yeck

                      DE- Putnam, Kaumatule (I think he plays from Day 1)
                      DE- Manumaleuna, Bryson, Rowley
                      DT- Fuga, Richardson, Tausinga
                      OLB- Pendelton, Frazier
                      OLB- KVN, Atkinson, Wagner
                      MLB- Kaveinga, Jorgensen, Leung-Wai
                      MLB- Ogletree, Stout, Keoshian
                      CB- Eason, Buckner, Hadley
                      CB- Everett, Aguirre, Gaines
                      FS- Galea'i, R. Nelson, Uale
                      SS- Sampson, J. Johnson

                      PR- Falslev, Jacobsen
                      KR- Hoffman, Phillips
                      K- Sorensen
                      P- Stephenson

                      (not sure all the missionaries coming home so this may adjust based on returning missionaries and if Stout, and a few others leave on missions)
                      What is the likelihood that Reynolds bolts for the NFL? Will the lackluster season whet his appetite to return and see BYU back to a better year? Does Speredon have any shot at a Medical RS?
                      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                      -General George S. Patton

                      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                      -DOCTOR Wuap

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                      • Hsaru
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1109

                        #26
                        Speredon is not going to apply for a Med RS, he's done with football. If H Reynolds does in fact start there he will be an improvement over Speredon.

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                        • Jarid in Cedar
                          CS Institutional Memory
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 13234

                          #27
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          Can somebody do a similar thing for Utah? How many departures? Thx in advance.
                          When I get back to work and have more CUF time, I will get it done
                          My ADR6300 wishes to congratulate all the BYU fans on the board.
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                          • EdmondDantes
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 186

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            What is the likelihood that Reynolds bolts for the NFL? Will the lackluster season whet his appetite to return and see BYU back to a better year? Does Speredon have any shot at a Medical RS?
                            Hard to tell. With the impending NFL labor strife coming....I wonder how many Sophomores and Juniors that could declare may not do so just because of all the uncertainty?

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                            • byu71
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22070

                              #29
                              You can never plan too early. I need to decide which away game the boys and I are going to go to. Ole, Miss., Texas or Oregon St.

                              Besides who we play, cost to get there and what kind of golf courses are in the area are also important considerations. I am leaning Texas, but we went to Texas when we played Oklahoma.

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                              • Goatnapper'96
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10920

                                #30
                                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                                You can never plan too early. I need to decide which away game the boys and I are going to go to. Ole, Miss., Texas or Oregon St.

                                Besides who we play, cost to get there and what kind of golf courses are in the area are also important considerations. I am leaning Texas, but we went to Texas when we played Oklahoma.
                                Ole Miss is a fabulous place for a college game. The rumor down that way is that when General William Tecumseh Sherman got to Oxford he decided Ole Miss University was too beautiful to burn to the ground. I am not really sure if Shermann's Army really got near Oxford, but it is a cool rumor!

                                The Coeds in cocktail dresses and the lads in khakis, white shirt (an orthodox mormon such as yourself should feel right at home) and tie is a nice touch.
                                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                                -General George S. Patton

                                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                                -DOCTOR Wuap

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