Utah will play in the Rose Bowl this year.

[Solon]

scottie, Boise beat Oregon State, not Oregon.

I'd like to see the Utes in the Rose Bowl a year earlier than I had anticipated.

I'd also like a pony.

[Portland Ute]

Utah has to win out first.

IF:

1. Oregon finishes 1 or 2,
2. Utah wins out, and
3. Utah finishes ahead of Boise St.

Discuss.

Gee, thanks, Seattle. Did you bother reading Dan's post that started this thread?

[scottie]

scottie, Boise beat Oregon State, not Oregon.

In case I missed your sarcasm -- I was saying that if Oregon St wins the PAC10.

[Portland Ute]

In case I missed your sarcasm -- I was saying that if Oregon St wins the PAC10.

What if Pitt ends up winning the Big East? That seems far more likely than Oregon State winning the PAC.

[scottie]

PAC10?

Well, anyway...

It is interesting that Boise's average computer ranking is currently 7. Utah's is 11.

Utah is coming out of the SOS killing part of their schedule and Boise is just heading into theirs.

Utah is has got a SOS dream matchup with TCU.

It's surprising to me that Boise and Utah are only 4 spots apart at this point. Boise is going to drop and Utah is going to climb in the computers. The question is: how much?

I'm actually more hopeful that Utah can pass Boise after finding out the average computer rankings.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Oregon St is in the PAC10, and Boise beat Oregon St.

[scottie]

What if Pitt ends up winning the Big East? That seems far more likely than Oregon State winning the PAC.

I said nothing about Utah. I pointed out the irony that would result if people considered Boise's schedule weak if two of their wins end up being against BCS conference champs.

[BoylenOver]

But ironically two of their wins could very well end up being over the champs of both the PAC10 and ACC.

VaTech I can see. It's long odds for Oregon St winning the P10, though. It's hard to envision the Beavs winning out minus James Rodgers.

[FN Phat]

PAC10?

Well, anyway...

It is interesting that Boise's average computer ranking is currently 7. Utah's is 11.

Utah is coming out of the SOS killing part of their schedule and Boise is just heading into theirs.

Utah is has got a SOS dream matchup with TCU.

It's surprising to me that Boise and Utah are only 4 spots apart at this point. Boise is going to drop and Utah is going to climb in the computers. The question is: how much?

I'm actually more hopeful that Utah can pass Boise after finding out the average computer rankings.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

There isn't much to discuss. Utah has to get past a very tough TCU first. We will pick this conversation up if that happens. Yes it is a big if!

[CJF]

There isn't much to discuss. Utah has to get past a very tough TCU first. We will pick this conversation up if that happens. Yes it is a big if!

I think Utah will pound TCU. TCU this year isn't nearly as impressive as last year. Utah has the perfect offense to hurt TCU. A power running game complimented by good WR's and solid QB play. TCU seems very vulnerable up the middle and that will open up the passing game for a team with talented WR's. Utah has a much better defense than BYU and BYU really slowed down TCU's offense. Utah has good special teams also. I think Utah will get them and I think it will be a double digit victory.

[Top Ute]

Utah is coming out of the SOS killing part of their schedule and Boise is just heading into theirs.

I disagree on this. BSU has already played the two worst teams in the WAC. That's already factored into their SOS, which is 55th right now according to Sagarin. It has games left against Nevada, Hawaii and Fresno -- all top 60 teams. Games against La. Tech, USU and Idaho balance that out. Plus, I think Oregon State and Virginia Tech still have room to climb.

The gap between No. 3 Boise and No. 4 is significant. As long as Boise can maintain its No. 2 spot in the coaches and Harris polls, it will be in prime position to get into the top 2 of the BCS should Oklahoma and/or Oregon falter. And my money's on OU dropping a game, with roadies left to Missouri, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M and Baylor. All four teams are capable of pulling off an upset.

[pellegrino]

I'd like to see the Utes in the Rose Bowl a year earlier than I had anticipated.

I'd also like a pony.

ponies are nice.

[BoylenOver]

Utah would have to benefit from a lot of people falling. Utah's BCS score is .6 something. If both teams win out I can't see Utah ever jumping Boise. Utah is just too far down IMO, but who knows how much the schedule will hurt Boise and how much a win over TCU will help Utah. Anyway there is no scenario I can envision that Boise would jump a one loss Oklahoma, Auburn, or Oregon to be 1 or 2. As such, Boise would get the automatic non-AQ bid and Utah would have to be selected as an at-large.

I looked up the standings this morning. Utah is .654, Boise is .890. That seems like a huge gap, especially considering Top Ute's analysis of who's left on Boise's schedule.

[Surfah]

I looked up the standings this morning. Utah is .654, Boise is .890. That seems like a huge gap, especially considering Top Ute's analysis of who's left on Boise's schedule.

Which was my point. It will be interesting to see what a win over TCU would do to the computer rankings. I don't think it will be enough if Boise also wins out. But I could be wrong.

I think this season could get crazy like 2007. I think both OU and UO could lose a game. I think you're going to see a bunch of 1 loss teams and then Boise with TCU/Utah as the only undefeateds. And the non-AQs will get screwed. From a NYT article I read they interviewed Jerry Palm who runs collegerpi.com and gave Boise only 50-50 shot at the title game if they're the only undefeated in football. If there is a BCS undefeated then Boise's chances are just 10% of playing for the MNC.

[UtahDan]

I think Utah will pound TCU. TCU this year isn't nearly as impressive as last year. Utah has the perfect offense to hurt TCU. A power running game complimented by good WR's and solid QB play. TCU seems very vulnerable up the middle and that will open up the passing game for a team with talented WR's. Utah has a much better defense than BYU and BYU really slowed down TCU's offense. Utah has good special teams also. I think Utah will get them and I think it will be a double digit victory.

I actually think this too, but my big hesitation is how careless we are with the football. I still think TCU is very good, but it doesn't have that filthy defense it had a year ago.

[TripletDaddy]

There is nothing to discuss. Utah will not play in the Rose Bowl this year.