Utah will play in the Rose Bowl this year.

[UtahDan]

IF:

1. Oregon finishes 1 or 2,
2. Utah wins out, and
3. Utah finishes ahead of Boise St.

Discuss.

[Surfah]

IF:

1. Oregon finishes 1 or 2,
2. Utah wins out, and
3. Utah finishes ahead of Boise St.

Discuss.

Boise State has to lose for any of these to happen. And I don't see that. So there isn't anything to discuss.

[UtahDan]

Boise State has to lose for any of these to happen. And I don't see that. So there isn't anything to discuss.

I don't know whether that is true or not (is it impossible for them to slip?) but all of that remains possible if Boise and Oregon are 1 and 2.

EDIT: I guess I should say I think it would still work in that case, not sure.

[Surfah]

I don't know whether that is true or not (is it impossible for them to slip?) but all of that remains possible if Boise and Oregon are 1 and 2.

Boise likely won't be 1 or 2 unless multiple teams in the top 10 all lose. And lose more than 1 game.

[Portland Ute]

IF:

1. Oregon finishes 1 or 2,
2. Utah wins out, and
3. Utah finishes ahead of Boise St.

Discuss.

What is there to discuss.

What you said is absolutely true. If all those things happen, Utah will play in the Rose Bowl.

[UtahDan]

Boise likely won't be 1 or 2 unless multiple teams in the top 10 all lose. And lose more than 1 game.

Maybe I've missed something about how it works. Are you saying that if Boise wins out and so does Utah there is no scenario where Boise would be as high as one or two and but no scenario where it would lower than Utah? I don't understand the numbers part of this very well.

[Portland Ute]

Boise State has to lose for any of these to happen. And I don't see that. So there isn't anything to discuss.

Not necessarily.

Utah could conceivably pass Boise in the rankings. A big showing against the top 5 TCU and a whipping of 6-3 ND at ND on NBC could go a long way towards pushing Utah right in behind Boise in the human rankings.

Add in Pitt putting together a nice W-L record and OrSU getting more losses along with VaTech and Utah walks past Boise in the BCS standings.

[Portland Ute]

Maybe I've missed something about how it works. Are you saying that if Boise wins out and so does Utah there is no scenario where Boise would be as high as one or two and but no scenario where it would lower than Utah? I don't understand the numbers part of this very well.

I think what he is saying is that Boise is #3 in the BCS rankings that count and their SOS and computer rankings are only going to get worse.

[Surfah]

Maybe I've missed something about how it works. Are you saying that if Boise wins out and so does Utah there is no scenario where Boise would be as high as one or two and but no scenario where it would lower than Utah? I don't understand the numbers part of this very well.

Utah would have to benefit from a lot of people falling. Utah's BCS score is .6 something. If both teams win out I can't see Utah ever jumping Boise. Utah is just too far down IMO, but who knows how much the schedule will hurt Boise and how much a win over TCU will help Utah. Anyway there is no scenario I can envision that Boise would jump a one loss Oklahoma, Auburn, or Oregon to be 1 or 2. As such, Boise would get the automatic non-AQ bid and Utah would have to be selected as an at-large.

[Surfah]

Not necessarily.

Utah could conceivably pass Boise in the rankings. A big showing against the top 5 TCU and a whipping of 6-3 ND at ND on NBC could go a long way towards pushing Utah right in behind Boise in the human rankings.

Add in Pitt putting together a nice W-L record and OrSU getting more losses along with VaTech and Utah walks past Boise in the BCS standings.

If, if, if, if. There isn't much to discuss until the BCS poll before BCS selections are made. All anyone can do is win their games in front of them and see where everything settles at the end.

[SeattleUte]

Boise got some bad news when Nevada screwed the pooch in Hawaii. See also the Beavers vs. the Huskies. When all is said and done Boise's schedule will be terrible.

[scottie]

Boise got some bad news when Nevada screwed the pooch in Hawaii. See also the Beavers vs. the Huskies. When all is said and done Boise's schedule will be terrible.

But ironically two of their wins could very well end up being over the champs of both the PAC10 and ACC.

[Portland Ute]

But ironically two of their wins could very well end up being over the champs of both the PAC10 and ACC.

PAC10?

Well, anyway...

It is interesting that Boise's average computer ranking is currently 7. Utah's is 11.

Utah is coming out of the SOS killing part of their schedule and Boise is just heading into theirs.

Utah is has got a SOS dream matchup with TCU.

It's surprising to me that Boise and Utah are only 4 spots apart at this point. Boise is going to drop and Utah is going to climb in the computers. The question is: how much?

I'm actually more hopeful that Utah can pass Boise after finding out the average computer rankings.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[SeattleUte]

PAC10?

Well, anyway...

It is interesting that Boise's average computer ranking is currently 7. Utah's is 11.

Utah is coming out of the SOS killing part of their schedule and Boise is just heading into theirs.

Utah is has got a SOS dream matchup with TCU.

It's surprising to me that Boise and Utah are only 4 spots apart at this point. Boise is going to drop and Utah is going to climb in the computers. The question is: how much?

I'm actually more hopeful that Utah can pass Boise after finding out the average computer rankings.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Utah has to win out first.

[SeattleUte]

But ironically two of their wins could very well end up being over the champs of both the PAC10 and ACC.

scottie, Boise beat Oregon State, not Oregon.