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  • #16
    Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
    To me, it would be like a basketball coach calling a timeout after the free throw leaves the hand of the shooter, forcing the player to hit the same shot 2 or 3 times. I think it is bush even when Bronco does it.

    Karma is when this happens, and the kicker misses.
    Except once the ref hands the ball to the shooter, you can't call timeout any more.

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    • #17
      Ah. I see that it's perfectly reasonable to deny the visiting team a walk through.

      Nothing wrong with that.

      I've been re-calibrated.

      (Unless, of course, this was BYU and not Oregon state, then most of the fans here would be howling.)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
        Ah. I see that it's perfectly reasonable to deny the visiting team a walk through.

        Nothing wrong with that.

        I've been re-calibrated.

        (Unless, of course, this was BYU and not Oregon state, then most of the fans here would be howling.)
        Where do you think the competitive advantage lies? This is an honest question. I would think it would fall more in the not allowing than the players physically not doing a walk through. It gives OSU something else to focus on that has nothing to do with the game.
        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
          For once I hope you are right.

          I don't think it's about being intimidated. I think it's about getting your eyes and brain accustomed to something that is entirely abstract. How often do you play on any surface that is not green? Never. Also, throw in the camouflaged blue unis on the blue turf and I think it's completely reasonable to try to get the eye accustomed to picking up the blue against blue.

          I can't believe they won't let them do a walk through.
          This is bullshit. At ground level the players will be able to tell the difference. Besides what is Boise's competitive advantage then when they play away from home?

          Also, I can't find anything that says Oregon State painted their field because Boise isn't allowing them to do a walk through. In fact I found an article stating that all teams get a couple hours on the smurf turf. What I did find was that this was in the works for the better part of a month and that an anonymous donor paid for it all. Also, only the defense and special teams will be practicing on it.
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          • #20
            Alabama's 2010 football field...


            Compared to Boise States.


            Obviously Oregon State thinks that the blue turf gives BSU an unfair advantage hence the newly blue practice field.

            I've never played football on blue turf, so I really don't know how big of a difference it really makes, but my guess is that it does give Boise State an unfair advantage. How could it not be a distraction to a team that plays every other game EVER on green turf.

            This would be a fan's perspective of Boise State players on the blue turf. Camouflaged or not? From this view, it looks like it to me.


            Field level view showing Boise State playing Oregon last year. Looks clear to me. But then again, I've never played in a D-1 game on blue turf against the Broncos.


            The link below has a video showing Oregon State's practice field being painted blue.

            http://www.buildingthedam.com/2010/9...ates-blue-turf
            "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

            "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
            -John Heisman

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            • #21
              Wow, PU, that sucks that you harbor this kind of BSU resentment. Even I don't hate them as much and I was at the game in Provo. Fortunately I was also in the MUSS for the state's other embarrassment and let me tell you, they are not a bullshit program. They have a small but passionate fanbase. They travel extremely well and they have carved a nitch by riding ESPN all the way to the bank. Sure they only have 7 just over a decade of football history but if lowering academic standards, painting their turf blue, and pulling stunts like this is bullshit than color me impressed.
              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                Wow, PU, that sucks that you harbor this kind of BSU resentment. Even I don't hate them as much and I was at the game in Provo. Fortunately I was also in the MUSS for the state's other embarrassment and let me tell you, they are not a bullshit program. They have a small but passionate fanbase. They travel extremely well and they have carved a nitch by riding ESPN all the way to the bank. Sure they only have 7 just over a decade of football history but if lowering academic standards, painting their turf blue, and pulling stunts like this is bullshit than color me impressed.
                They do have a JUCO national championship and a 1-AA championship I believe.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  They do have a JUCO national championship and a 1-AA championship I believe.
                  I understand that. I was referring to relevant history. Yes, that is being dismissive but that's another argument entirely.
                  "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                  "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Coastal Ute View Post
                    Alabama's 2010 football field...


                    Compared to Boise States.


                    Obviously Oregon State thinks that the blue turf gives BSU an unfair advantage hence the newly blue practice field.

                    I've never played football on blue turf, so I really don't know how big of a difference it really makes, but my guess is that it does give Boise State an unfair advantage. How could it not be a distraction to a team that plays every other game EVER on green turf.

                    This would be a fan's perspective of Boise State players on the blue turf. Camouflaged or not? From this view, it looks like it to me.


                    Field level view showing Boise State playing Oregon last year. Looks clear to me. But then again, I've never played in a D-1 game on blue turf against the Broncos.


                    The link below has a video showing Oregon State's practice field being painted blue.

                    http://www.buildingthedam.com/2010/9...ates-blue-turf
                    BTW, Boise has supposedly replaced their blue field turf with one that doesn't glisten or reflect light like the old field did as you see in that last picture. I read that it's not an issue in person, but the cameras pick it up.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                      BTW, Boise has supposedly replaced their blue field turf with one that doesn't glisten or reflect light like the old field did as you see in that last picture. I read that it's not an issue in person, but the cameras pick it up.
                      That's what I heard as well. I've also heard that the field never had a glare- it was just the cameras picking it up. Maybe I'm wrong.
                      "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

                      "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
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                      • #26
                        Also, FWIW, I think being in the MWC will be a humbling experience for BSU (it would be more so if they had to play BYU and Utah every year...well, maybe not Utah ).

                        I can't stand Boise State for a couple of reasons- main one being that their fans are grade-a douches. I also think they need to have a little humble pie force fed to them. I think that will happen in the near future. Hopefully it will happen against OSU so we don't have to hear about Boise in the title game the whole year.
                        "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

                        "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
                        -John Heisman

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Coastal Ute View Post
                          Also, FWIW, I think being in the MWC will be a humbling experience for BSU (it would be more so if they had to play BYU and Utah every year...well, maybe not Utah ).

                          I can't stand Boise State for a couple of reasons- main one being that their fans are grade-a douches. I also think they need to have a little humble pie force fed to them. I think that will happen in the near future. Hopefully it will happen against OSU so we don't have to hear about Boise in the title game the whole year.
                          This is true of any and all fanbases who taste success.
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Coastal Ute View Post
                            Also, FWIW, I think being in the MWC will be a humbling experience for BSU (it would be more so if they had to play BYU and Utah every year...well, maybe not Utah ).

                            I can't stand Boise State for a couple of reasons- main one being that their fans are grade-a douches. I also think they need to have a little humble pie force fed to them. I think that will happen in the near future. Hopefully it will happen against OSU so we don't have to hear about Boise in the title game the whole year.
                            I think that Boise State will beat up on OSU. I also think they'll do really well in the MWC. Especially next year. Moore will be a senior right? TCU will be breaking in a new QB. They will roll everyone in the MWC next year.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                              This is true of any and all fanbases who taste success.
                              I thought about that when I was typing. It definitely is true. Look at BYU since...well, since 1972 and Utah since 2003. Have you ever met a BSU homer though? C'mon.
                              "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

                              "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
                              -John Heisman

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                                I think that Boise State will beat up on OSU. I also think they'll do really well in the MWC. Especially next year. Moore will be a senior right? TCU will be breaking in a new QB. They will roll everyone in the MWC next year.
                                Maybe, maybe not. I have faith in TCU though. Didn't they have the best recruiting class in the MWC this last year? I'm sure they'll fill for Dalton just fine. Also, I think Boise is losing a significant part of it's team after this year. I think. The MWC WILL be tougher than the WAC. I would be shocked if it wasn't. Boise will not go undefeated every year.
                                "75-10 the last two games? Is my math right? It's enough to make me reconsider my embrace of science over Christianity."--SU

                                "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to have fumbled this football."
                                -John Heisman

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