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  • Blueintheface
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 15382

    #46
    By my count this thread makes a full-blown SU snit.
    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37942

      #47
      Originally posted by CJF View Post
      Originally posted by falafel View Post
      I don't think its so bad. I happen to agree with Dick. I don't want my burger in a tortilla!

      Thanks for the signature.
      No problem. If you're looking for something else to put in there, I also prefer that my balls be fried in peanut oil.
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • DU Ute
        RIP CUF
        • Dec 2008
        • 7393

        #48
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        I have no idea how Harmon survived the latest round of layoffs at Des News.
        Maybe they did fire him, then extended a church calling to continue extolling the virtues of BYU football.
        "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
        "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
        "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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        • LA Ute
          Receiver of Memory
          • Nov 2008
          • 19512

          #49
          I once asked a friend, a DesNews insider, why they hired Harmon away from the Provo Herald when he really wasn't a journalist as much as a Total Blue Sports kind of guy. The answer I got was that the News was trying to expand its national (on-line) reach, and their data showed that stories about BYU sports were among the top attractions for out-of-state readers in the paper's internet editions. So they brought on Harmon to give that demographic what it wanted. That does make a lot of sense, as much as I can't stand reading most of Harmon's stuff. IMO, his rant on ESPN about Utah going to the PAC10 kind of finished off whatever reputation he had as a journalist. But that's not really why he's there at the Deseret News anyway, it seems.
          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
          ― W.H. Auden


          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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          • UtahDan
            *
            • Nov 2008
            • 14496

            #50
            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
            I once asked a friend, a DesNews insider, why they hired Harmon away from the Provo Herald when he really wasn't a journalist as much as a Total Blue Sports kind of guy. The answer I got was that the News was trying to expand its national (on-line) reach, and their data showed that stories about BYU sports were among the top attractions for out-of-state readers in the paper's internet editions. So they brought on Harmon to give that demographic what it wanted. That does make a lot of sense, as much as I can't stand reading most of Harmon's stuff. IMO, his rant on ESPN about Utah going to the PAC10 kind of finished off whatever reputation he had as a journalist. But that's not really why he's there at the Deseret News anyway, it seems.
            In other words, the market has provided the consumer exactly the mirror it wants.

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            • SeattleUte
              Faith crisis consultant
              • Nov 2008
              • 20837

              #51
              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
              I once asked a friend, a DesNews insider, why they hired Harmon away from the Provo Herald when he really wasn't a journalist as much as a Total Blue Sports kind of guy. The answer I got was that the News was trying to expand its national (on-line) reach, and their data showed that stories about BYU sports were among the top attractions for out-of-state readers in the paper's internet editions. So they brought on Harmon to give that demographic what it wanted. That does make a lot of sense, as much as I can't stand reading most of Harmon's stuff. IMO, his rant on ESPN about Utah going to the PAC10 kind of finished off whatever reputation he had as a journalist. But that's not really why he's there at the Deseret News anyway, it seems.
              I think that's a sound strategy, except that Harmon is a moron. I'm sure gman would be 100x better.

              Personally, I'm glad that someone in Harmon's position is such a bufoon. He has so many golden opportunities to raise Utes' blood pressure, and he just fritters it away being the BYU idiot.
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • jay santos
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 13652

                #52
                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                I once asked a friend, a DesNews insider, why they hired Harmon away from the Provo Herald when he really wasn't a journalist as much as a Total Blue Sports kind of guy. The answer I got was that the News was trying to expand its national (on-line) reach, and their data showed that stories about BYU sports were among the top attractions for out-of-state readers in the paper's internet editions. So they brought on Harmon to give that demographic what it wanted. That does make a lot of sense, as much as I can't stand reading most of Harmon's stuff. IMO, his rant on ESPN about Utah going to the PAC10 kind of finished off whatever reputation he had as a journalist. But that's not really why he's there at the Deseret News anyway, it seems.
                He was hired to sell newspapers to BYU fans.

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                • EuropeanFootballMale
                  Karate/Friendship Master
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1339

                  #53
                  I've tried really, really hard and I still don't get it. The Harmon article either.

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                  • LA Ute
                    Receiver of Memory
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19512

                    #54
                    Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                    He was hired to sell newspapers to BYU fans.
                    You said in 8 words what it took me 6 long sentences to say. Well-done.
                    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                    ― W.H. Auden


                    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                    • ERCougar
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10978

                      #55
                      Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                      He was hired to sell newspapers to BYU fans.
                      Exactly. Don't lots of newspapers have these kinds of homer newspaper hacks? I don't read a lot of the smaller regional papers (like the D-News), but when I was browsing the links during the BYU independence thing, I was a little surprised at how homerish and completely uninformed the scattered columnists were. No, it really wasn't even that that surprised me--it was the apparent complete lack of effort to even figure out the motivations behind the move that did. Even the Dallas Morning News guy, who I assume was the TCU beat guy, just spouted the same drivel about how BYU suddenly thought they were too good for TCU. Much like Harmon's rant about Utah leaving, they seemed more like they were trying to rile up the local fans than to present any sort of informed opinion.
                      Last edited by ERCougar; 09-14-2010, 04:12 PM.
                      At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                      -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                      • Blueintheface
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 15382

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                        Exactly. Don't lots of newspapers have these kinds of homer newspaper hacks? I don't read a lot of the smaller regional papers (like the D-News), but when I was browsing the links during the BYU independence thing, I was a little surprised at how homerish and completely uninformed the scattered columnists were. No, it really wasn't even that that surprised me--it was the apparent complete lack of effort to even figure out the motivations behind the move that did. Even the Dallas Morning News guy, who I assume was the TCU beat guy, just spouted the same drivel about how BYU suddenly thought they were too good for TCU. Much like Harmon's rant about Utah leaving, they seemed more like rallying cries for the local fans than any sort of informed opinion.
                        I sent an email to the Norman, OK guy after his on-air dismissal of BYU last summer and his response was a profanity laced tirade about the age of BYU's players and some nonsense about their abilities. (You may recall his reference to Jan and others as guys on his softball league). Just think if in my email I had actually accused him of being a homer.
                        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                        • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                          Time to camp
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 26082

                          #57
                          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                          You said in 8 words what it took me 6 long sentences to say. Well-done.
                          Way to not participate in this thread.
                          Get confident, stupid
                          -landpoke

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                          • Spicy McHaggis
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 178

                            #58
                            Dick and Bronco are a perfect match. No sane person can understand either one of them.

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #59
                              Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                              Way to not participate in this thread.
                              Rats. I forgot. I hereby withdraw from participation in this thread and declare all my earlier posts inoperative.
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                              • LA Ute
                                Receiver of Memory
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 19512

                                #60
                                Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                                Exactly. Don't lots of newspapers have these kinds of homer newspaper hacks? I don't read a lot of the smaller regional papers (like the D-News), but when I was browsing the links during the BYU independence thing, I was a little surprised at how homerish and completely uninformed the scattered columnists were. No, it really wasn't even that that surprised me--it was the apparent complete lack of effort to even figure out the motivations behind the move that did. Even the Dallas Morning News guy, who I assume was the TCU beat guy, just spouted the same drivel about how BYU suddenly thought they were too good for TCU. Much like Harmon's rant about Utah leaving, they seemed more like they were trying to rile up the local fans than to present any sort of informed opinion.
                                The smaller the market, the more homerish the newspaper reporting. Just my opinion. The L.A. Times is brutal on all the local teams - no homers to be seen. Not so for local radio. UCLA and USC have their own station and it's a homer for them - just like KSL and KALL.

                                (The foregoing post should not be interpreted as my participating in this thread. I'm just making observations. Lawyers would call this a special appearance.)
                                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                                ― W.H. Auden


                                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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